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[Toemeesleather]

"There's been a lot of debate over the global warming 'pause' that has occurred between 1998 and 2013," reports ScienceWorldReport.com:

Now, though, researchers may have found out why this pause has occurred. . . .

The deceleration in rising temperatures after 1998 is often referred to as a pause, or a hiatus, in global warming. It's raised questions about why the rate of surface warming on Earth has been markedly slower than in previous decades. What's more curious is that levels of greenhouse gases have continued to rise throughout the period.

In order to better understand why global warming seemed to be on hold, the researchers applied a statistical methodology developed in a previous paper. This earlier study used pre-industrial temperature proxies to analyze historical climate patterns and ruled out the possibility that global warming in the industrial area is just a natural fluctuation in Earth's climate. The researchers applied the same approach to the 15-year period after 1998.

So what did they find? It turns out that there has been a natural cooling fluctuation of about .28 to .37 degrees Celsius since 1998. This pattern is in line with variations that occur historically every 20 to 50 years.

So the scientists who claim to understand the climate have just now figured out that temperatures are subject to natural variation?



Natural variation.....Whodafuhkinthunkit??!!!llll

[Toemeesleather]

Natural Variation=Global Warming


Global Warming=Climate Change


Climate Change=Natural Variation


Hmmmmmm, how can I make $$$$$ on this?

[BigRedMan]

PHOTOS: Five of the world's lakes at risk of drying up completly - MSNews

http://local.msn.com/photos-five-lakes- ... completely

OMG, the Dead Sea is......dying!

Holy shit, I didn't even know it was sick!!

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"There's been a lot of debate over the global warming 'pause' that has occurred between 1998 and 2013," reports ScienceWorldReport.com:



So the scientists who claim to understand the climate have just now figured out that temperatures are subject to natural variation?

Funny, but I see articles referring to 'natural variation/variability going back to the '70s and '80s. Yet your denier wants to claim the scientific community just this week figured it out?
From NASA...Oct 1st 2000

http://science.nasa.gov/science-news/sc ... st20oct_1/

The natural variability often shows an astounding degree of complexity, much of which remains poorly understood. "We've only begun making large scale measurements in the last 100 to 150 years," Abdalati said. "And climatic processes happen on very different time scales. There are some, like ice ages, that are in the tens of thousands or hundreds of thousands years long. An then there are atmospheric processes like weather, which happen on the scales of hours and days."

Other climate cycles fall in between, such as the North Atlantic Oscillation mentioned above, which is thought to complete one cycle roughly every 20 to 30 years.

Heh - this one article refers to 'natural variation' about 20 times...and this was 14 years ago, before the most recent 'ocillation.'

[Toemeesleather]

Ok, pls note how much natural variation, ie cooler temps is blasted over the air waves/internet vs global warming/climate change, ie warmer temps. Once you get the hang of the language and the politics, and how the MSM wants to portray it you'll sleep better. And of course, natural variation is what I've touted from the beginning......oh yeah..... Where is natural variation in the science is settled graph below?







He shoots!!!! He scores!!!!

[Toemeesleather]

this one article refers to 'natural variation' about 20 times.



Pls feel free to post ALL natural variation comments from the MSM w/regards to 2005.

[Toemeesleather]

“He who controls the language controls the masses”. – Saul Alinsky in Rules for Radicals

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PT Barnum approves this message...and so does Exxon Mobile.

[Johnette's Daddy]

"There's been a lot of debate over the global warming 'pause' that has occurred between 1998 and 2013," reports ScienceWorldReport.com:

Consider the source. ScienceWorldReport.com is a property of 33 Universal, which is a subsidiary of IB Times (which now owns Newsweek). At the end of the chain is David Jang, an ultraconservative, anti-science, anti-gay pastor who has been called "the Second Coming of Christ." The outlets basically funnel money to his church/ministry to promote its expansion.

http://www.motherjones.com/media/2014/0 ... david-jang

Two days after Barack Obama won reelection, I met a young Chinese woman, whom I will call Anne, in the basement café at the San Francisco Public Library. Anne worked part time and gave a large portion of her earnings to a group she called "the Community," a Christian sect led by a charismatic Korean pastor named David Jang. After joining the group in her late teens, Anne had spent more than seven years working in its ministries—organizations and businesses run by Jang's disciples. With short hair and large glasses, Anne was now in her late 20s but looked younger. She said she rarely had enough money for small luxuries like coffee. We chatted with a mutual friend while we waited for her husband, Caleb, who also worked for a ministry: the International Business Times, the flagship publication of an eponymous online news company that would, nine months later, become the new owner of Newsweek magazine.

Caleb was running late because he was translating Obama's victory speech into Chinese for IBT, which publishes 11 editions in seven languages. When he arrived, he shook my hand and, without meeting my eyes, sat beside his wife. "Tell him," she said, pushing her husband's elbow and raising her chin in my direction. They argued under their breath in a few clipped, Chinese sentences, and then he turned to me and said, "We're working here illegally."

For the last year and a half, Caleb said, he and Anne had worked at Community ministries while living in San Francisco on visas they received for Caleb to attend Olivet University, a small Bible college Jang founded in 2004. Caleb was enrolled at Olivet, but he rarely had time to study. Instead, he told me, he translated articles from English into Chinese for 10 to 12 hours each weekday, and commonly worked weekends.

"The pay isn't bad," Caleb said, as though daring himself to be wrong.

I asked him how much he was making. He told me between $500—their part of the rent for the group home they shared with 8 to 10 other Community members—and $1,000, depending on the month. I did a quick calculation of what he'd earn working full time at California's minimum wage. I wrote the sum, $1,280, on a napkin and slid it across the table. His hand trembled as he picked it up. He and Anne looked at each other. "That doesn't include overtime," I said.

People like Caleb and Anne helped IBT, founded in 2006, become one of the world's largest online news sources, a network of websites whose media kit claims 40 million unique visitors each month. In August 2013, IBT bought Newsweek from Barry Diller at the low point of the once-venerable title's long decline. Departing editor Tina Brown's controversial covers and attempts at synergy with the Daily Beast had failed to shore up the 80-year-old magazine's finances; it published what was supposed to be its final print issue at the end of 2012.

But within months of the IBT deal, Newsweek's new editor in chief, Jim Impoco (formerly of the New York Times, Portfolio, and Reuters), said it would be back on newsstands in the first quarter of 2014. Under IBT's ownership, Impoco has attracted an experienced and well-respected crew of journalists, and on March 4, IBT also announced that Peter Goodman, an award-winning former New York Times economics correspondent and business editor at the Huffington Post, would take over as IBT's editor in chief. Two days later, Newsweek returned to print with a splash, alleging—to much acclaim and debate—that it had identified the mysterious creator of the electronic currency bitcoin.

At the time of Newsweek's sale, Christianity Today and BuzzFeed published reports claiming that IBT had ties to Jang and the Community. Etienne Uzac and Johnathan Davis—IBT's CEO and chief content officer, respectively—told BuzzFeed's Peter Lauria that IBT has an ongoing relationship with Olivet, but claimed that it was akin to the connection between Silicon Valley and Stanford. "That's as far as it goes," Davis told Lauria. On March 2, in a New York Times article about Newsweek's return to print, Davis and Uzac again denied IBT had formal ties to Jang. They dismissed similar questions from the Guardian (which reported that Davis, in a Facebook post, had endorsed the view that gay people can be "cured") last week.

But the connections between IBT and Jang's Community, a Mother Jones investigation has found, go much further than Davis and Uzac have acknowledged. Thousands of pages of public records and internal documents—ranging from emails to budgets and strategic plans—and interviews with more than a dozen former IBT employees and members of Jang's inner circle make clear that:
Olivet and IBT are linked to a web of dozens of churches, nonprofits, and corporations around the world that Jang has founded, influenced, or controlled, with money from Community members and profitable ministries helping to cover the costs of money-losing ministries and Jang's expenses. Money from other Community-affiliated organizations also helped fund IBT's early growth.
Olivet students in the United States on international student visas say they worked for IBT and other Community media entities, sometimes for as little as $125 a week. Both Olivet and IBT described these positions as internships, and said no-one was allowed to work illegally. Several students I spoke with say they were not told they were interns, and documents from Olivet and the businesses list students as reporters, editors, and salespeople.
According to the Times, Uzac and Davis "said Jang had no financial stake in IBT or influence on the business." But the pair acknowledged to Mother Jones that Jang has provided "advice" to IBT. And while there's no evidence Jang controlled editorial matters, internal documents show him routinely weighing in on a wide range of business decisions, from personnel and business strategy to typography.
Jang sees Community-affiliated media organizations, including IBT, as an essential part of his mission to build the kingdom of God on Earth. He has said that media companies affiliated with the Community are part of a new Noah's ark designed to save the world from a biblical flood of information.

I tried to reach Jang through Olivet, which he founded, and two other organizations he still officially leads. A Mother Jones reporter also visited an Olivet satellite campus in downtown Manhattan where Jang preaches to deliver written questions, but Jang never responded. I repeatedly sought to interview Uzac, Davis, or other IBT representatives and sent detailed questions to both men and their PR representative, who replied that IBT would not respond in detail and that the questions were "formed by unethical sources that have been demonstrated in the past to falsify information." IBT offered an official statement, reiterating that Davis (31) and Uzac (30) alone founded and own the company, and saying IBT was "grateful" for help from an internship program with Olivet. "Any claims that we are engaged in activities with organizations that go beyond what is commonly recognized as appropriate and ethical behavior are categorically false," the statement reads. "Furthermore, our conduct with partners is compliant with all applicable laws."

IBT is hardly the first media company with close ties to a religious group. The Reverend Sun Myung Moon's Unification Church founded the Washington Times; the Christian Science Church has published the Christian Science Monitor for decades. But while those affiliations are formal and public, IBT's ties to the Community are neither. In one email, Davis went so far as to refer to his Community role as "inherently covert."

There's nothing unusual about business leaders associating with people or institutions that share their values. And Impoco seems satisfied that his editorial operations are walled off from his bosses' religious affiliation. "The notion that this is a Christian company is ludicrous. I don't think about [Uzac and Davis] being Christians any more than I used to think about Mort Zuckerman being Jewish," says Impoco, who worked for Zuckerman at US News.

So why have Uzac and Davis been so eager to downplay their ties to Jang?

(read the rest at the link)

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Finally, a fair and proper climate change debate...3 skeptics versus 97 AGWers. Brilliant.

[Dr. Nostron]

Record low at my house yesterday - plus it rained.

Why do you lie bluetick?

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Rain, or the neighbor kid pissing on your singlewide?

van wideright,

hello

[Professor Tiger]

Anybody who lived through last year's brutal winter, and the current record mild summer, in the Midwest should ask themselves: Who am I going to believe? Computer models stacked by MMGW enthusiasts, or my lying skin?

[Professor Tiger]

Or they can believe the IPCC, which says global warming stopped in 1998. Or they can believe the University of East Anglia, whose scientists exchanged emails how to explain the absence MMGW.

[sardis]

"There's been a lot of debate over the global warming 'pause' that has occurred between 1998 and 2013," reports ScienceWorldReport.com:

Consider the source. ScienceWorldReport.com is a property of 33 Universal, which is a subsidiary of IB Times (which now owns Newsweek). At the end of the chain is David Jang, an ultraconservative, anti-science, anti-gay pastor who has been called "the Second Coming of Christ." The outlets basically funnel money to his church/ministry to promote its expansion.

http://www.motherjones.com/media/2014/0 ... david-jang

Two days after Barack Obama won reelection, I met a young Chinese woman, whom I will call Anne, in the basement café at the San Francisco Public Library. Anne worked part time and gave a large portion of her earnings to a group she called "the Community," a Christian sect led by a charismatic Korean pastor named David Jang. After joining the group in her late teens, Anne had spent more than seven years working in its ministries—organizations and businesses run by Jang's disciples. With short hair and large glasses, Anne was now in her late 20s but looked younger. She said she rarely had enough money for small luxuries like coffee. We chatted with a mutual friend while we waited for her husband, Caleb, who also worked for a ministry: the International Business Times, the flagship publication of an eponymous online news company that would, nine months later, become the new owner of Newsweek magazine.

Caleb was running late because he was translating Obama's victory speech into Chinese for IBT, which publishes 11 editions in seven languages. When he arrived, he shook my hand and, without meeting my eyes, sat beside his wife. "Tell him," she said, pushing her husband's elbow and raising her chin in my direction. They argued under their breath in a few clipped, Chinese sentences, and then he turned to me and said, "We're working here illegally."

For the last year and a half, Caleb said, he and Anne had worked at Community ministries while living in San Francisco on visas they received for Caleb to attend Olivet University, a small Bible college Jang founded in 2004. Caleb was enrolled at Olivet, but he rarely had time to study. Instead, he told me, he translated articles from English into Chinese for 10 to 12 hours each weekday, and commonly worked weekends.

"The pay isn't bad," Caleb said, as though daring himself to be wrong.

I asked him how much he was making. He told me between $500—their part of the rent for the group home they shared with 8 to 10 other Community members—and $1,000, depending on the month. I did a quick calculation of what he'd earn working full time at California's minimum wage. I wrote the sum, $1,280, on a napkin and slid it across the table. His hand trembled as he picked it up. He and Anne looked at each other. "That doesn't include overtime," I said.

People like Caleb and Anne helped IBT, founded in 2006, become one of the world's largest online news sources, a network of websites whose media kit claims 40 million unique visitors each month. In August 2013, IBT bought Newsweek from Barry Diller at the low point of the once-venerable title's long decline. Departing editor Tina Brown's controversial covers and attempts at synergy with the Daily Beast had failed to shore up the 80-year-old magazine's finances; it published what was supposed to be its final print issue at the end of 2012.

But within months of the IBT deal, Newsweek's new editor in chief, Jim Impoco (formerly of the New York Times, Portfolio, and Reuters), said it would be back on newsstands in the first quarter of 2014. Under IBT's ownership, Impoco has attracted an experienced and well-respected crew of journalists, and on March 4, IBT also announced that Peter Goodman, an award-winning former New York Times economics correspondent and business editor at the Huffington Post, would take over as IBT's editor in chief. Two days later, Newsweek returned to print with a splash, alleging—to much acclaim and debate—that it had identified the mysterious creator of the electronic currency bitcoin.

At the time of Newsweek's sale, Christianity Today and BuzzFeed published reports claiming that IBT had ties to Jang and the Community. Etienne Uzac and Johnathan Davis—IBT's CEO and chief content officer, respectively—told BuzzFeed's Peter Lauria that IBT has an ongoing relationship with Olivet, but claimed that it was akin to the connection between Silicon Valley and Stanford. "That's as far as it goes," Davis told Lauria. On March 2, in a New York Times article about Newsweek's return to print, Davis and Uzac again denied IBT had formal ties to Jang. They dismissed similar questions from the Guardian (which reported that Davis, in a Facebook post, had endorsed the view that gay people can be "cured") last week.

But the connections between IBT and Jang's Community, a Mother Jones investigation has found, go much further than Davis and Uzac have acknowledged. Thousands of pages of public records and internal documents—ranging from emails to budgets and strategic plans—and interviews with more than a dozen former IBT employees and members of Jang's inner circle make clear that:
Olivet and IBT are linked to a web of dozens of churches, nonprofits, and corporations around the world that Jang has founded, influenced, or controlled, with money from Community members and profitable ministries helping to cover the costs of money-losing ministries and Jang's expenses. Money from other Community-affiliated organizations also helped fund IBT's early growth.
Olivet students in the United States on international student visas say they worked for IBT and other Community media entities, sometimes for as little as $125 a week. Both Olivet and IBT described these positions as internships, and said no-one was allowed to work illegally. Several students I spoke with say they were not told they were interns, and documents from Olivet and the businesses list students as reporters, editors, and salespeople.
According to the Times, Uzac and Davis "said Jang had no financial stake in IBT or influence on the business." But the pair acknowledged to Mother Jones that Jang has provided "advice" to IBT. And while there's no evidence Jang controlled editorial matters, internal documents show him routinely weighing in on a wide range of business decisions, from personnel and business strategy to typography.
Jang sees Community-affiliated media organizations, including IBT, as an essential part of his mission to build the kingdom of God on Earth. He has said that media companies affiliated with the Community are part of a new Noah's ark designed to save the world from a biblical flood of information.

I tried to reach Jang through Olivet, which he founded, and two other organizations he still officially leads. A Mother Jones reporter also visited an Olivet satellite campus in downtown Manhattan where Jang preaches to deliver written questions, but Jang never responded. I repeatedly sought to interview Uzac, Davis, or other IBT representatives and sent detailed questions to both men and their PR representative, who replied that IBT would not respond in detail and that the questions were "formed by unethical sources that have been demonstrated in the past to falsify information." IBT offered an official statement, reiterating that Davis (31) and Uzac (30) alone founded and own the company, and saying IBT was "grateful" for help from an internship program with Olivet. "Any claims that we are engaged in activities with organizations that go beyond what is commonly recognized as appropriate and ethical behavior are categorically false," the statement reads. "Furthermore, our conduct with partners is compliant with all applicable laws."

IBT is hardly the first media company with close ties to a religious group. The Reverend Sun Myung Moon's Unification Church founded the Washington Times; the Christian Science Church has published the Christian Science Monitor for decades. But while those affiliations are formal and public, IBT's ties to the Community are neither. In one email, Davis went so far as to refer to his Community role as "inherently covert."

There's nothing unusual about business leaders associating with people or institutions that share their values. And Impoco seems satisfied that his editorial operations are walled off from his bosses' religious affiliation. "The notion that this is a Christian company is ludicrous. I don't think about [Uzac and Davis] being Christians any more than I used to think about Mort Zuckerman being Jewish," says Impoco, who worked for Zuckerman at US News.

So why have Uzac and Davis been so eager to downplay their ties to Jang?

(read the rest at the link)

Consider the source: Mother Jones

http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/prin ... grpid=6959

[Toemeesleather]

Nothing new here, just like to see the rare truth spoken from the left, stupid as it may be, still honest. This is what the dems and the swallowers around here seek, just can't come out and say it.


Environmentalists have declared that global warming can’t be stopped without ending the “hegemonic capitalist system,” saying that cap-and-trade systems and conservation efforts are “false solutions.”

“The structural causes of climate change are linked to the current capitalist hegemonic system,” reads the final draft of the Margarita Declaration, presented at a conference including about 130 environmental groups.

“To combat climate change it is necessary to change the system,” the declaration adds.

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Nothing new here, just like to see the rare truth spoken from the left, stupid as it may be, still honest. This is what the dems and the swallowers around here seek, just can't come out and say it.


Environmentalists have declared that global warming can’t be stopped without ending the “hegemonic capitalist system,” saying that cap-and-trade systems and conservation efforts are “false solutions.”

“The structural causes of climate change are linked to the current capitalist hegemonic system,” reads the final draft of the Margarita Declaration, presented at a conference including about 130 environmental groups.

“To combat climate change it is necessary to change the system,” the declaration adds.

Apparently they can't pinpoint who put in that 'declaration' and who may have signed on to it . Some radical groups down in Venezula that nobody's heard of.

Lessee, says here the manifesto-author is anti-green economy and against cap-and-trade.....umm......

sounds like a particular somebody around here...lol

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Or they can believe the IPCC, which says global warming stopped in 1998. Or they can believe the University of East Anglia, whose scientists exchanged emails how to explain the absence MMGW.

Pretty sure the IPCC said GW 'slowed' in 1998. A small distinction, but if it works for you and Ted Cruze - go with it.

[Toemeesleather]

Executive Dir. of Sierra Club - statement: Notice the much more toned down verbiage, same goal/intent.

“Climate disruption is the greatest challenge facing our generation. Until now, power plants have been allowed to dump unlimited amounts of carbon pollution into our air, driving dangerous climate disruption, and fueling severe drought, wildfires, heat waves and superstorms. Extreme weather, and the costs to Americans’ health and wallets, will only worsen unless we act.


Climate disruption - lol......still can't seem to find natural variation here.....



greatest challenge facing our generation...

No hype here....a few unemployed folks might disagree.