Ostensibly Hoops

[eCat]

from what I'm reading McCants released his transcripts to prove he wasn't lying.

He was about to become academically ineligible to play and then 4 A's centering around AFAM.

The fact that McCants was on the Dean's list tells you about all you need to know here.

The next absurdity is the players who came out against McCants saying they attended class - while also admitting they took the AFAM classes.

UNC is a complete joke - seriously , this is past surreal.

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Rashad McCants was not the only UNC men’s basketball player from the 2005 national championship team who relied heavily on African studies classes that didn’t meet, according to whistleblower Mary Willingham, who tutored athletes during that period.

Data she provided to The News & Observer show that five members of that team, including at least four key players, accounted for a combined 39 enrollments in classes that have been identified as confirmed or suspected lecture classes that never met. The data also show that the five athletes accounted for 13 enrollments that were accurately identified as independent studies.

Those classes are also suspect because for much of the last decade, the department offered far more independent studies than it could properly supervise, previous reviews have shown.

The revelation of the classes, plus McCants’ interview broadcast Friday by ESPN, are the strongest links between the basketball program and the academic scandal that has stretched into its third year.

ere’s a breakdown of the classes that five members of the 2005 UNC men’s basketball team took that have been found to be suspect:

Independent studies
Course Title Grades
AFAM 71 Field Research 4 A-minuses, 1 B
AFRI 90 Independent Study 1 A-minus
AFRI 190 Independent Study 2 A-minuses
AFAM 190 Independent Study 2 A-minuses
AFRI 396 Independent Study 2 A-minuses, 1 B-plus

No-show classes
AFRI 60 Topics in African Studies 2 Bs, 1 B-plus
AFAM 65 Topics in AFAM Studies 3 A-minuses, 1 A
AFAM 69 Black Nationalism 2 A-minuses, 1 B-plus
AFAM 70 AFAM Seminar 1 A
AFAM 94A AFAM Arts/Aestheti 1 A-minus
AFRI 120 Southern Africa 4 B-pluses
AFRI 121 East Africa Society 1 A-minus
AFAM 128 AFAM Bioethics 2 A-minuses, 2 As

Read more here: http://www.newsobserver.com/2014/06/06/ ... rylink=cpy

[Jungle Rat]

Give them the SMU treatment. Death penalty.

[Jungle Rat]

Heh.

http://m.espn.go.com/wireless/story?storyId=11047963

[crotch]

from what I'm reading McCants released his transcripts to prove he wasn't lying.

He was about to become academically ineligible to play and then 4 A's centering around AFAM.

The fact that McCants was on the Dean's list tells you about all you need to know here.

The next absurdity is the players who came out against McCants saying they attended class - while also admitting they took the AFAM classes.

UNC is a complete joke - seriously , this is past surreal.

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Rashad McCants was not the only UNC men’s basketball player from the 2005 national championship team who relied heavily on African studies classes that didn’t meet, according to whistleblower Mary Willingham, who tutored athletes during that period.

Data she provided to The News & Observer show that five members of that team, including at least four key players, accounted for a combined 39 enrollments in classes that have been identified as confirmed or suspected lecture classes that never met. The data also show that the five athletes accounted for 13 enrollments that were accurately identified as independent studies.

Those classes are also suspect because for much of the last decade, the department offered far more independent studies than it could properly supervise, previous reviews have shown.

The revelation of the classes, plus McCants’ interview broadcast Friday by ESPN, are the strongest links between the basketball program and the academic scandal that has stretched into its third year.

here’s a breakdown of the classes that five members of the 2005 UNC men’s basketball team took that have been found to be suspect:

Independent studies
Course Title Grades
AFAM 71 Field Research 4 A-minuses, 1 B
AFRI 90 Independent Study 1 A-minus
AFRI 190 Independent Study 2 A-minuses
AFAM 190 Independent Study 2 A-minuses
AFRI 396 Independent Study 2 A-minuses, 1 B-plus

No-show classes
AFRI 60 Topics in African Studies 2 Bs, 1 B-plus
AFAM 65 Topics in AFAM Studies 3 A-minuses, 1 A
AFAM 69 Black Nationalism 2 A-minuses, 1 B-plus
AFAM 70 AFAM Seminar 1 A
AFAM 94A AFAM Arts/Aestheti 1 A-minus
AFRI 120 Southern Africa 4 B-pluses
AFRI 121 East Africa Society 1 A-minus
AFAM 128 AFAM Bioethics 2 A-minuses, 2 As

Read more here: http://www.newsobserver.com/2014/06/06/ ... rylink=cpy

Shameful to say the least......... so when is the title being forfeited???

[Cats rule]

^ should read "are" and "titles"

[Cats rule]

^ I guess I should've added "I suspect"

[crotch]

The Carolina Way

[Saint]

there will be no penalties, no forfeited titles. read the fine print and have a good day, gentlemen.

[DooKSucks]

The classes were open to all students. Everyone could sign up for the independent study classes. Advisors steered students to easy classes when good grades were needed. Every college has easy courses. Everyone found out that there are easy classes at Carolina and that athletes took those classes. What a surprise! It happens everywhere, even Ivy League schools. The NCAA looked into the AFAM program when it was on campus. Nothing happened then. Everyone is getting worked up over the ranting of a lunatic (McCants) and a fame whore who is a discredited liar (Willingham).

[eCat]

it happens everywhere


remember when Carolina folks used to say it would never happen on their campus?

my....my....my

[AlabamAlum]

I enjoy seeing Carolina's rivals make hay with this, but I do not like hearing about someone who skated around doing what's right wag his finger and tattle.

[Saint]

The thing that I don't believe in what McCants said is the part about Williams telling him he could swap out a class. I doubt that any coach of any major sport at any college has the slightest notion of how the academic eligibility system works. There are entire departments set up within athletic departments of people whose only job is to help athletes do their schoolwork. I can't imagine that a coach would know anything more than a player is eligible or not. I could be wrong but that seems like a lot to expect a coach at the level or mentality of Williams to have any knowledge of.

However, I would imagine that McCants, or as Julius Hodge calls him "special buddy," probably was able to cut corners here and there.

[Jungle Rat]

Look at the Tarheel spin wagon in action.

[eCat]

The thing that I don't believe in what McCants said is the part about Williams telling him he could swap out a class. I doubt that any coach of any major sport at any college has the slightest notion of how the academic eligibility system works. There are entire departments set up within athletic departments of people whose only job is to help athletes do their schoolwork. I can't imagine that a coach would know anything more than a player is eligible or not. I could be wrong but that seems like a lot to expect a coach at the level or mentality of Williams to have any knowledge of.

However, I would imagine that McCants, or as Julius Hodge calls him "special buddy," probably was able to cut corners here and there.

so 1. We're supposed to believe that McCants made the Dean's List and 2. That Roy didn't know that or that if he did, he believed that McCants honestly earned it? With only 12 or 14 players , and we're talking about a starter on a national championship team and I'm supposed to believe that Roy Williams didn't know their academic standings, and more importantly , that McCants was dangerously close to academic suspension prior to him signing up for AFAM?

in his own words he said he knew when a player did well on academics and congratulated them for doing so.

[hedge]

What is the difference b/w independent study and no-show classes? Aren't they the same thing?

I enjoy seeing Carolina's rivals make hay with this, but I do not like hearing about someone who skated around doing what's right wag his finger and tattle.

I guess it's obvious why most (all?) athletes would gladly take the easy classes and easy grades, but at some point, doesn't any responsibility fall on them for taking such classes (regular students, too)? Evidently they didn't feel too "cheated" by the easy classes, at least not at the time...

[Jungle Rat]

Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

[eCat]

its a night and day difference between taking a class that has been traditionally easy and creating classes designed to pass athletes with no effort at all - and this idea that other students were able to sign up for them somehow takes the athletic department off the hook is absurd.


"Afro-American and African studies, May said, offered “more independent electives, independent study. I could take a lot of classes during the season. Communications, I had to be there in the actual classroom.” - Sean May

[DooKSucks]

He did what a lot of regular students did as well. So what?

[eCat]

So Sean May says he switched classes so he doesn't have to show up - so what?

McCants does it - he's a damn liar!

[Cletus]

He did what a lot of regular students did as well. So what?

This is not a good argument if you'd like people to think your degree has any value. It's one thing to cheat to create an advantage for a very small subset of students. But, when all the students can skate by without doing anything, that's really bad for the overall profile of the university.