Puterbac News Network and Political Discussion Thread

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"So no Catholic (and other religious) hospitals have a problem with being forced to provide contraception and/or abortifacients? Other than the following plaintiffs taking the government to court over this issue, you're absolutely right:"

Wow, that's an impressive list. The government better be well prepared to take them on, it's not like they're going up against the Sisters of the Poor...

wait a minute...

[Dr. Strangelove]

Kansas Senate hastily votes down a measure that PASSED the Kansas House of Representatives that would've made it legal to discriminate against gays on "religious grounds".

http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/kansas-gop-r ... rsial-bill

[Johnette's Daddy]

Kansas Senate hastily votes down a measure that PASSED the Kansas House of Representatives that would've made it legal to discriminate against gays on "religious grounds".

http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/kansas-gop-r ... rsial-bill

It never would've survived a SCOTUS challenge. Freedom of Religion has always assumed limits (try sacrificing your neighbor's baby on an altar and then claim that you're a Mayan Priest exercising your religious freedom - or get two marriage licenses in Mississippi because you're Mormon). The Equal Protection Clause, however, has proven to be immutable, despite dozens of challenges.

Moreover, Kansas was getting hammered by the business community and the first person to die because an EMT refused to treat them on religious grounds would bankrupt the state.

[Toemeesleather]

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Richard Lindzen is Professor of Atmospheric Sciences emeritus at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology.


“Global climate alarmism has been costly to society, and it has the potential to be vastly more costly. It also has been damaging to science, as scientists adjust both data and even theory to accommodate politically correct positions. How can one escape from the Iron Triangle (ambiguous statements from scientists translated into alarmism by advocates and the media, with politicians responding by feeding the scientists taxpayer money) when it produces flawed science that is enormously influential and is forcing catastrophic public policy.

[bluetick]

heh - everybody knows who Dr. Lindzen is. His name typically follows "Pay to the Order of" ...on checks embroidered with logos of famous fossil fuel corporations.

[bluetick]

An open letter to Rep. Marsha Blackburn (R-TN), after another embarassing performance, this time opposite Bill Nye ("The Science Guy") on Meat the Depressed:

To: the Honorable Rep Mz. Blackburn,

Marsha, Marsha, Marsha...what are we gonna do with you? Seriously. This whole 'I'm not going to study up on climate science because I want to keep an open mind' may work with the mouth-breathers, but at some point you need to learn enough to at least join in a tv conversation. Please consider the following:

The sun's energy warms Earth's surface and most of this energy (in the form of heat) is reflected back into space.

Greenhouse gases in Earth's atmosphere absorb some of this reflected heat that would normally escape into space. More greenhouse gases in the atmosphere result in more heat being absorbed into the atmosphere, which raises the average global temperature.

Carbon is a greenhouse gas. Swear to God.

Since the Industrial Revolution, carbon emissions due to human activities have been on the increase, which results in more carbon in the atmosphere. Please believe that the Industrial Revolution has little or nothing to do with socialists, Bolsheviks, Leon Trotsky, or even Charles Darwin.

More carbon in the atmosphere as a result of human activity causes more heat to be absorbed, which causes global temperatures to rise.

And while all of this may be "in God's hands," that can also be true of the infinite potential He bestowed on his people, brain-wise.

Work on your brain, Marsha. Feed it every chance you get.

Yours truly,

bluetick
Farragut, TN

[Toemeesleather]

Carbon is a greenhouse gas. Swear to God.


So is H2O. Swear to Gore.

[Toemeesleather]

Since tick's ONLY point is always the people that disagree w/him are stoopid, it's only fair to post from his side's websites, to wit the "ecoEnquirer"


(EXCLUSIVE - Washington, D.C.) Photographic evidence leaked to ecoEnquirer shows what are claimed to be Texas Air National Guard jets flying in formation in and around the eyewall of Hurricane Katrina twenty-four hours before it devastated New Orleans.

The photograph was e-mailed to us by a National Security Agency employee who provided the information on condition of anonymity. The employee's e-mail contained a claim that one of the nation's spy satellites was tasked to the Gulf region to help monitor and guide a squadron of Texas Air National Guard jets that were used to influence the movement and intensity of the hurricane.


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[Toemeesleather]

Since the Industrial Revolution, carbon emissions due to human activities have been on the increase, which results in more carbon in the atmosphere. Please believe that the Industrial Revolution has little or nothing to do with socialists, Bolsheviks, Leon Trotsky, or even Charles Darwin.


What is the cause for the warming prior to said Industrial Revolution, say from 10,000BC to 1800AD? Most meals were prepared over open fire, guess that's it.

[bluetick]

Since the Industrial Revolution, carbon emissions due to human activities have been on the increase, which results in more carbon in the atmosphere. Please believe that the Industrial Revolution has little or nothing to do with socialists, Bolsheviks, Leon Trotsky, or even Charles Darwin.


What is the cause for the warming prior to said Industrial Revolution, say from 10,000BC to 1800AD? Most meals were prepared over open fire, guess that's it.

Look up in the daytime sky. See that intensly bright yellow ball? There's your answer.

[Toemeesleather]

So there is more than one factor in the warming of Gaia?


We're making progress here, folks.

[bluetick]

We're making progress here, folks.

Sadly, you've never given any indication that you're making progress, toe. But I'm here for you....hope springs eternal and all that.

[10ac]

Carbon is a greenhouse gas. Swear to God.

Elemental carbon, C, is a solid.

Why do you lie?

[Johnette's Daddy]

So in 2014, we're still arguing climate change?

Sometimes I think we'd have been better off if Columbus had just fallen off of the edge of the world . . .

[Owlman]

Columbus. Cool guy. Take 4 trips and miss a whole continental mainland (okay, I'm not considering lower central America as part of North America). Claim a land that someone already lives. If I like JD's house and I have enough guns, I can claim it for my own. Kinda like Wesley Snipes in New Jack City

[Professor Tiger]

So in 2014, we're still arguing climate change?

I got your climate change right here:

http://www.weather.com/video/the-great- ... ozen-44584

Global warming is a religion.

[Professor Tiger]

Columbus. Cool guy. Take 4 trips and miss a whole continental mainland (okay, I'm not considering lower central America as part of North America). Claim a land that someone already lives. If I like JD's house and I have enough guns, I can claim it for my own. Kinda like Wesley Snipes in New Jack City

That was a cool movie.

So North America was Columbus' Carter projects. Sounds like a doctoral thesis title waiting to be written.

[Professor Tiger]

So in 2014, we're still arguing climate change?
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Global warming stopped 16 years ago, reveals Met Office report quietly released... and here is the chart to prove it

The figures reveal that from the beginning of 1997 until August 2012 there was no discernible rise in aggregate global temperatures
This means that the ‘pause’ in global warming has now lasted for about the same time as the previous period when temperatures rose, 1980 to 1996


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/ ... z2te7QeAWD

Global warming is a hoax.

[Johnette's Daddy]

So in 2014, we're still arguing climate change?
.

Global warming stopped 16 years ago, reveals Met Office report quietly released... and here is the chart to prove it

The figures reveal that from the beginning of 1997 until August 2012 there was no discernible rise in aggregate global temperatures
This means that the ‘pause’ in global warming has now lasted for about the same time as the previous period when temperatures rose, 1980 to 1996


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/ ... z2te7QeAWD

Global warming is a hoax.

NASA says otherwise http://climate.nasa.gov/news/1029

NASA scientists say 2013 tied with 2009 and 2006 for the seventh warmest year since 1880, continuing a long-term trend of rising global temperatures.
With the exception of 1998, the 10 warmest years in the 134-year record have all occurred since 2000, with 2010 and 2005 ranking as the warmest years on record.
. . .
NASA's Goddard Institute for Space Studies (GISS) in New York, which analyzes global surface temperatures on an ongoing basis, released an updated report Tuesday on temperatures around the globe in 2013. The comparison shows how Earth continues to experience temperatures warmer than those measured several decades ago.


There are always industry hacks who will sell their scientific credentials - e.g.: "nicotine is not addictive." http://www.montrealgazette.com/health/A ... story.html

Bourget, who is licensed to practise in Ontario and Quebec, is a member of the Collège des médecins du Québec, and must adhere to its code of ethics. Articles in that code state that doctors must not take actions or make statements that run counter to current knowledge in medical science, and must not transmit written or verbal information that they know to be incorrect.

In his complaint to the Collège, Quebec Director of the NSRA François Damphousse accuses Bourget of offering “specious and misleading arguments” in her report to the court and expressing doubt that nicotine can legitimately be considered an addictive drug.

“This woman is clearly a hired gun,” Damphousse said in an interview with The Gazette during a break in testimony Thursday. “The industry is always trying to find someone to defend its position that nicotine is not a problem. ... She just brushes aside all the science on nicotine addiction and the neurophysiological effects of nicotine on the brain. ... She is rejecting current scientific knowledge about addiction and she is not allowed to do that as a member of the Collège.”

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"Global warming is a religion."

So you're saying that people who buy it are kinda like.... you...