Puterbac News Network and Political Discussion Thread

[Jungle Rat]

Im actually surprised anybody read IBs last few posts. He's weird.

[Professor Tiger]

IB, the biggest difference between Libertarians and recent Republican politicians is, when Libertarians call for drastically smaller, less intrusive, less expensive government, they really mean it.

[bluetick]

Right now they're more interested in calling for a smaller and less intrusive Weiner.


thanks... I'll be here all week

[Toemeesleather]

Based on slick Willie's success, he should run for prez....take Eric Holder as his VP....yea, Weiner-Holder, that's the ticket.

[It's me Karen]

Willie doing the crazy hand jive...

[GBJs]

IB, the biggest difference between Libertarians and recent Republican politicians is, when Libertarians call for drastically smaller, less intrusive, less expensive government, they really mean it.

I've got to call BS on that one...there's not a politician in the world that means that.

[THE_WIZARD_]

hi

[10ac]

working on it.

[Toemeesleather]

Cuatro Anos Mas!!l


http://www.jewishworldreview.com/cols/will061611.php3

[It's me Karen]

Oh I wish I were a congress liar Weiner...

[sardis]

My first and probably last use of an emoticon...

[sardis]

The best part of this article is at the bottom it says, "Paul Krugman is off today", but the rest of the article is pretty good too...

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/06/17/opini ... .html?_r=1

[It's me Karen]

My first and probably last use of an emoticon...

[Professor Tiger]

Ladies and gentlemen, the peter tweeter has left the building.

Wouldn't you love to have heard the conversations between Mrs. Wiener and her boss Hillary Clinton on the flight back to the US?

[Toemeesleather]

Ok, close the books on Weiner and let's get back to the serious stuff. Inquiring minds want to know...when will the truth about Palin be released based on all the emails that were released last week?? I guess the media is just waiting for better timing.

[It's me Karen]

I wish Palin had a name that we could work with. Weiner is easy. Weiner sucks. Weiner blows.

[Jungle Rat]

Palin be failin

[Professor Tiger]

Great article on the Republican debate from Peggy Noonan (or, as I think of her, the female George Will):

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000142 ... 36738.html

Highlights:

Second, and more important, the foreign-policy discussion, though limited, was marked by a new sobriety. There was no spirit of adventurism, there were no burly promises of victories around the corner and lights at the ends of tunnels. It was more muted than that, more realistic, different in tone and tenor from four and eight years ago. This signaled a real shift, and a heartening one.

Isolationists think they can be isolated, which is just another form of romanticism and unreality. We live in the world. We will never again be apart from it; trade and technology wouldn't allow us to if we wanted to. We have real alliances and real foes. But there is little taste now for what is fast becoming an old vision that progress can be made and U.S. security enhanced through invasion, pacification and occupation. There is little taste for the idea that we can easily, or even arduously, force the complete cultural change of other hearts and other minds.

So it's especially good to see the Republicans start to return to themselves, to their essential nature as a party, which was invented to be genially sober, like Lincoln, optimistic but not unrealistic, like Reagan, and accepting that life has limits and it's not unpatriotic to say so.

The problem with Afghanistan, and Iraq for that matter, is not only that after 10 years our efforts have turned out of be—polite word—inconclusive. We are spending money we don't have for aims we cannot even articulate.

[bluetick]

The best part of this article is at the bottom it says, "Paul Krugman is off today", but the rest of the article is pretty good too...

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/06/17/opini ... .html?_r=1

A great article, and Brooks has made the case many times before.

The final message is that members of the leadership class have done nothing to police themselves. The Wall Street-Industry-Regulator-Lobbyist tangle is even more deeply enmeshed.

Absolutely correct of course but it's tantamount to complaining about the weather. Politicians will continue to operate in the special interest sewer, and the public is too fractured over social issues to mount an effort to clean it up. Seems like there was a flicker of anti-lobbyist revolt in the beginnings of the tea party movement....in the early day of "non-partisanship"...before the bat-shit craziness..

[bluetick]

So it's especially good to see the Republicans return to themselves

Ho hum. Noonan didn't seem to mind the duyba doctrine back in the day...now she's somehow encouraged that inside the GOP the neocons have been replaced by "sober" visionairys ...not prone to "invasion, occupation, and pacification."

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