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Post by DooKSucks » Wed Dec 18, 2013 10:52 pm

I could never watch it because everything appeared to be staged.
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Post by hedge » Wed Dec 18, 2013 11:46 pm

Definitely staged...

"funny for a while, now redundant."

If by "awhile" you mean about 15 minutes, I agree...
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Post by Toemeesleather » Thu Dec 19, 2013 1:38 pm

DooKSucks wrote:I could never watch it because everything appeared to be staged.

WHAT??!!! Next thing you'll be saying is wrasslin's staged.
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Post by BigRedMan » Thu Dec 19, 2013 3:17 pm

See if this GD steel chair to back of head is staged!!!!
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Post by Bklyn » Thu Dec 19, 2013 10:34 pm

The grandkids will wind up on TMZ drunk, high or pregnant (or all 3) and the universe's habit of challenging our prejudices sooner or later will come around on Phil.
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Post by Jungle Rat » Thu Dec 19, 2013 10:58 pm

Id be willing to bet you're wrong. Then again, Im drunk devouring a box of twinkees.

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Post by Bklyn » Tue Dec 24, 2013 4:29 pm

I think I even fall victim to this at times, but I'm better than most because (seriously):

1. I've watched and loved The Wire so much, that David Simon's admonitions against a selfish worldview hang over me on a daily basis (word to Sabotka and Randy)
2. I grew up in an area that was not one anyone would call affluent
3. My circle of friends control a lot of capital, but check each other constantly on our general fuckery (even when wrong)

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Post by Bklyn » Thu Dec 26, 2013 4:33 pm

Pope Frank, changing the game
liberal Catholics (and secular observers) who think major doctrinal positions opposing abortion or contraception or ordination of women are on the horizon will likely be disappointed, there is no question this Pope has instantly challenged the suppression of traditional Catholic social and economic teachings in favor of a culturally counterrevolutionary agenda on sexuality and gender. Now it is conservative Catholics who must wonder if they are picking and choosing from an ecclesiastical cafeteria of Church teachings. The alliance of the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops with conservative evangelicals in a battle for “religious liberty” against the Obama administration’s health care policies is in danger of collapsing. And now it’s not only liberal Catholic politicians who have to think twice about the possibility of criticism from the hierarchy, but also the Rick Santorums of the world who have championed laissez-faire capitalism as a virtual article of faith while accusing liberal Catholics and Protestants of conspiring with non-believers to rid America of Christianity.

Suffice it to say that Francis has made it vastly more difficult to identify religious orthodoxy with political conservatism. And even more surprisingly, there are similar stirrings among conservative evangelical Protestants.
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Post by Owlman » Fri Dec 27, 2013 6:55 pm

An extension of the argument that corporations are the same as people. On some issues they are, this would be an expansion of that.
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This is what our government does to the people who try to do the right thing in taking them on

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NSA Whistleblower Tom Drake

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Thomas Drake is a patriot who has dedicated his life to safeguarding his country. A ten-year veteran of the Air Force (specializing in intelligence), he served as a CIA analyst and contractor for the National Security Agency (NSA) for 12 years before joining it full time in 2001.

Drake took his oath to support and defend the U.S. Constitution seriously. He steadfastly refused to look the other way upon discovering that NSA had instituted a program that sacrificed Americans' security and privacy, and was laden with massive waste. He did what was right and reported the wrongdoing through proper channels.

Drake took his grave concerns to his superiors at NSA, to Congress and to the NSA and Department of Defense Inspectors General (DoD IG). Retaliation soon followed. Management took aim at Drake's career by removing his responsibilities and shifting him to a meaningless position. He was increasingly isolated, singled-out, transferred away from projects, and marginalized. After his cooperation with DoD IG, which validated his concerns, Drake became the target of a wide-reaching and fruitless "leak" investigation related to the infamous NSA warrantless wiretapping scandal – despite the fact that he had nothing to do with the "leak" being investigated.

After reaching out to multiple proper oversight bodies, nothing changed. Finally, Drake made legal disclosures of unclassified information to a Baltimore Sun reporter, who wrote a series of award-winning articles that exposed this billion-dollar boondoggle at NSA.

For acting out of conscience and refusing to stand by as the NSA disregarded Americans' safety and privacy, the reprisal against Drake culminated in one of the most severe forms of whistleblower retaliation: criminal prosecution. The government conduced an armed raid of Drake's home, interrogated him repeatedly, and threatened him with spending "the rest of his natural life behind bars." The Department of Justice (DOJ) indicted Drake under the Espionage Act with improper "retention" – not disclosure – of allegedly classified information, and Drake faced decades in prison.

Drake came to GAP for help. GAP provided Drake with legal advice on whistleblower issues and launched an aggressive media and public advocacy campaign. GAP's help was, in Drake's own words, "crucial."


Background

While working with NSA, Drake became familiar with ThinThread – a data collection program that could efficiently and cost-effectively analyze massive amounts of data. ThinThread could provide pivotal intelligence for government agencies charged with identifying terrorism threats and networks. Even better, the program had privacy protections for Americans built into the system. ThinThread was ready to deploy prior to 9/11.

NSA management rejected ThinThread in favor of a different project – Trailblazer. This program was vastly more expensive than ThinThread, completely undeveloped, and lacked critical protections needed to safeguard Americans' privacy. Drake was concerned that the decision to implement Trailblazer amounted to gross fraud that cost taxpayers billions, and that NSA was conducting illegal and unconstitutional domestic surveillance in the aftermath of 9/11. Drake and several colleagues were devastated by 9/11, believing that if management had deployed ThinThread when it was ready, NSA likely would have gained actionable intelligence prior to the attacks.


Drake's Disclosures

Drake took his concerns through official channels – including senior NSA management and two 9/11 congressional investigations. His concerns were ignored.

In September 2002, three retired NSA employees (two of whom are GAP clients – J. Kirk Wiebe and William Binney) and a retired congressional staffer filed a complaint with DoDIG accusing the NSA of massive fraud, waste and mismanagement in connection with NSA's rejection of ThinThread and endorsement of the failing Trailblazer. Drake did not sign the complaint because, still working at NSA, he feared retaliation. However, Drake became a critical material witness for the DoDIG, fully cooperating with the investigation and using proper channels to provide the office with thousands of documents – classified and unclassified. In late 2004/early 2005, after years of investigation and thousands of pages of documents from Mr. Drake, the DoDIG released a report substantiating Drake and the complainants. Using the Freedom of Information Act, GAP later obtained a redacted copy of the classified report.


Drake and Radack at the Ridenhour Awards
Drake should have been praised for his efforts. Instead, NSA management retaliated against him by cutting funding to programs under his responsibility and transferring him away from key projects. For the rest of his NSA career, Drake was increasingly singled out, marginalized, and isolated.

Meanwhile, NSA management persisted in rejecting the successful and cost-effective ThinThread while promoting Trailblazer, which was already failing despite never having been fully developed.

Left with no other options, Drake began legally communicating with a Baltimore Sun reporter about Trailblazer – never sharing any classified information. In fact, one of the ground rules Drake insisted upon for their communications was that he would never provide classified information. The Sun published a series of articles exposing the $1.2 billion debacle.

Meanwhile, when the New York Times published a story exposing the NSA's unconstitutional warrantless wiretapping program, the FBI launched an expansive – and fruitless – investigation into the sources for the article. Although Drake was not a source for it, the federal government used the "leak" investigation as a pretext to persecute him. In November 2007, a few months after the FBI subjected three of the original DoD IG complainants to simultaneous armed raids, approximately a dozen armed federal agents raided Drake's house. Drake, his wife, and their young son watched as the raid was broadcast on the news that evening and the next morning Forced out of NSA (he resigned voluntarily, significantly with no adverse action on his personnel record), Drake found work at the local Apple store.

Justice Department officials interrogated Drake for hours on several occasions. Knowing he had done nothing wrong, Drake cooperated with the pre-textual "leak" investigation until he realized that the purpose was to retaliate against him. The officials pressured Drake multiple times to take a plea deal, threatening him with spending the "rest of his natural life behind bars" if he didn't – but Drake "refused to plea bargain with the truth."

Drake hoped that the new Obama administration – one that had touted the importance of federal whistleblowers during the 2008 campaign – would reverse direction and cease the use of the criminal justice system to go after whistleblowers. However, after Drake lived under the cloud of possible prosecution for two and a half years after the FBI raided his home, the DOJ finally indicted him in April 2010.

Drake was charged under 10 separate counts, 5 of which were charges brought under the Espionage Act – a 1917 piece of legislation intended to be used against spies. Drake was only the fourth case in U.S. history where the government used the Act to go after someone for allegedly mishandling classified materials – tellingly, Pentagon Papers whistleblower Daniel Ellsberg was the first.

Despite press statements to the contrary, Drake was not charged with disclosing classified information to a reporter, but rather accused of the alleged improper retention of allegedly classified information. After spending years investigating Drake, it is clear that if DOJ had evidence of Drake disclosing classified material, it would have charged him with disclosure under the relevant law for such a crime.

Drake faced decades in prison for doing the right thing.


Drake Turns To GAP, Builds Public Support

Drake's criminal defense team was headed by the federal public defender's office in Maryland, and his case drew the attention of dozens of legal experts and advocates.

GAP's National Security & Human Rights team (Jesselyn Radack & Kathleen McClellan) took notice of Drake's case and criticized the government's treatment of him in a Los Angeles Times op-ed, which prompted Drake to contact GAP and become a client. In addition to providing extensive legal advice on whistleblower issues and filing an amicus curie brief in his criminal case, GAP introduced him to other advocates and attorneys(some of whom helped on his defense team) and started a massive media advocacy campaign to put public pressure on the DOJ.

The mainstream media began taking notice of Drake's case and GAP's advocacy. A few stories began trickling out over the course of several months. In March 2011, just three months before his trial was slated to begin, Drake received the Ridenhour Prize for Truth-Telling – widely regarded as the highest honor for an American whistleblower.

GAP helped coordinate two high-profile back-to-back media pieces. In mid-May, award-winning investigative journalist Jane Mayer detailed the Drake case in an extensive New Yorker cover story. Less than one week later, 60 Minutes ran a segment focusing on Drake.


GAP's Kathleen McClellan delivers the petition to Senate offices.
After these two blockbusters, Drake's case became national news. Media coverage was consistently critical of the DOJ's prosecution of Drake, and the upcoming trial became a referendum on the Obama administration's policy of using the Espionage Act to prosecute so-called "leakers" – who are more often than not whistleblowers.

GAP harnessed this coverage and started an online petition in support of Drake. GAP's petition targeted the Attorney General and heads of the Congressional Judiciary Committees, demanding to know why the Justice Department was prosecuting Drake for protecting Americans and exposing gross waste. In just a few weeks, nearly 5,000 people signed the online petition, which GAP delivered to Congress and the Justice Department.


The Criminal Case Against Drake Collapses

In the face of mounting public support for Drake, the overwhelming media coverage, and several rulings against the DOJ in court, the case against Drake imploded just four days before the trial was set to begin. The DOJ agreed to drop the ten-count felony indictment, including all of the Espionage Act charges. Drake pled guilty to a mere misdemeanor: "exceeding authorized use of a computer." One month later, Drake was sentenced to one year of probation and community service, a far cry from the government's goal of putting Drake in jail for "the rest of his natural life." At sentencing, the judge sharply criticized the DOJ's handling of the case, calling it "unconscionable." Radack, who managed GAP's handling of the Drake case, stated that the resolution was "a victory for national security whistleblowers and against corruption inside our intelligence agencies."

A few weeks after the sentencing, in a remarkably rare move, former George W. Bush classification czar J. William Leonard filed a complaint against NSA and DOJ, seeking punishment for the officials who wrongfully classified the documents that Drake allegedly retained. Leonard, who was slated to serve as an expert on Drake's criminal defense team, stated that the documents contained no secrets, and "should never have been classified in the first place."

Drake himself has spoken out since the sentencing. He and Radack penned a Philadelphia Inquirer op-ed shortly after his sentencing, explaining how the Obama administration criminalized whistleblowing about national security matters. About a month later, the Washington Post published an op-ed by Drake explaining how his actions were driven by his oath to the Constitution.


Moving Forward

Immediately after his sentencing, speaking with reporters alongside Radack, Drake praised GAP's help: "I am grateful to the Government Accountability Project which provided crucial whistleblower advocacy and media outreach support ... while also serving as my voice when I did not have one. I am worried that the next target of such a witch-hunt will not be as fortunate."

The GAP-led media campaign in support of Drake has been lauded in news reports as having contributed to ensuring Drake's freedom. GAP is honored to have assisted this patriot, and made a difference for future federal whistleblowers.

While Drake won the battle for his freedom, the war against whistleblowers is ongoing. Without adequate internal disclosure channels, intelligence community whistleblowers are faced with an impossible choice. They can either risk their careers (and possibly their freedom) by making unprotected internal disclosures, or remain silent about horrible problems, such as gross waste, fraud, abuse of power, illegality, privacy and civil liberties violations, or even lapses in national security.

GAP's National Security & Human Rights team continues to fight for these truth-tellers that expose government wrongdoing.
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Re: Florida State Seminoles

Post by eCat » Fri Jan 03, 2014 12:52 pm

this may be on another thread somewhere but I'm sure you all read about that little Korean fucker executing his uncle, but now its being reported that he fed his uncle, and some of his aids (who he decided should also be executed while drunk) to 120 starving dogs.

Probably the first time a dog ate a man in North Korea and not vice versa, but fuuuuuuck...even China has to be looking at those guys like they are the Tony Montana of Asia
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Post by eCat » Fri Jan 03, 2014 2:39 pm

Scientists at the British Antarctic Survey say that the melting of the Pine Island Glacier ice shelf in Antarctica has suddenly slowed right down in the last few years, confirming earlier research which suggested that the shelf's melt does not result from human-driven global warming.

The Pine Island Glacier in West Antarctica and its associated sea ice shelf is closely watched: this is because unlike most of the sea ice around the austral continent, its melt rate has seemed to be accelerating quickly since scientists first began seriously studying it in the 1990s.

Many researchers had suggested that this was due to human-driven global warming, which appeared to be taking place rapidly at that time (though it has since gone on hold for 15 years or so, a circumstance which science is still assimilating).

However back in 2009 the British Antarctic Survey sent its Autosub robot probe under the shelf (famously powered by some 5,000 ordinary alkaline D-cell batteries on each trip beneath the ice, getting through no less than four tonnes of them during the research). The Autosub survey revealed that a previously unknown marine ridge lay below the shelf, over which the icepack had for millennia been forced to grind its way en route to the ocean. However in relatively recent times the ice had finally so ground down the ridge that the sea could flow in between shelf and ridge, freeing the ice to move much faster and warming it too.

As we reported at the time, this caused BAS boffins to suggest that the observed accelerating ice flow and melt seen since the '90s was actually a result of the ridge's erosion and sea ingress, rather than global warming.

Now, the latest BAS research has revealed that rather than accelerating, "oceanic melting of the ice shelf into which the glacier flows decreased by 50 per cent between 2010 and 2012".
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Post by Jungle Rat » Fri Jan 03, 2014 9:57 pm

Can we send Hedge over there to be dog food?

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Post by Bklyn » Sat Jan 04, 2014 4:08 pm

what does
Many researchers had suggested that this was due to human-driven global warming, which appeared to be taking place rapidly at that time (though it has since gone on hold for 15 years or so, a circumstance which science is still assimilating).
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Post by billy bob bocephus » Sun Jan 05, 2014 12:16 pm

agw proponents stepped on their dicks

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Post by sardis » Wed Jan 15, 2014 10:43 am

Wouldn't it make more environmental sense to use the money to build a subway system in LA. I don't think you are improving the environment much by reducing cars traveling highways between SF and LA

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Post by eCat » Wed Jan 15, 2014 10:47 am

sardis wrote:Wouldn't it make more environmental sense to use the money to build a subway system in LA. I don't think you are improving the environment much by reducing cars traveling highways between SF and LA

http://www.latimes.com/opinion/editoria ... z2qSpWLG6C

they are still planning on building a commuter rail system from my small town to downtown and then from downtown to the airport here in Cinci. I'm not sure why or what will be the result.
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Post by sardis » Wed Jan 15, 2014 11:03 am

Spending money on something like that makes more sense than spending on interstate travel

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Post by Bklyn » Wed Jan 15, 2014 4:25 pm

I always thought extensive underground train systems wouldn't work in LA (or San Fran) because of earthquake concerns. Also, the culture of so car-centric, you would be hard-pressed to get a lot of participation on the system.
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