Florida State Seminoles

[eCat]

[Tree]

[eCat]

I can't imagine dems nominating an old white guy again, Bernie has been cut out for two election cycles now by the powers in charge

[Jungle Rat]

Newsom

[eCat]

I would think he'd be the front runner at this point

he's going after DeSantis as well

[Tree]

I can't imagine dems nominating an old white guy again, Bernie has been cut out for two election cycles now by the powers in charge

True. They f him in the a with some shady shit then he turns around and shills for them in the general. I'm not saying he's a plant like Obama but damn, have a little backbone.

[hedge]

Bernie Sanders will be 83 in Nov. 2024. No thanks...

Newsome will certainly be in the mix. Probably somebody like Cory Booker too. Won't matter who the dems nominate, though, if Trump is on the ballot, the dem will win...

[eCat]

Trump isn't going to be on the ballot

[Jungle Rat]

I would think he'd be the front runner at this point

he's going after DeSantis as well

That's the matchup I'm looking at. Republicans could do better though. Still time.

[hedge]

"Trump isn't going to be on the ballot"

If he's not in jail (and maybe even if he is) and he wants to run, who's going to stop him?

[hedge]

"Newsome will certainly be in the mix. Probably somebody like Cory Booker too."

And Klobuchar...

[aTm]

If he's not in jail (and maybe even if he is) and he wants to run, who's going to stop him?

Find out next week on the next thrilling episode of All My Politicians!

[sardis]

Problem with Bernie is that Elizabeth Warren will split his constituents.

[sardis]

"Trump isn't going to be on the ballot"

If he's not in jail (and maybe even if he is) and he wants to run, who's going to stop him?

What are you talking about? Rat assures us he's going to jail...

[eCat]

the shit the media is throwing out about Trump now ,well , not necessarily the mainstream media but the peripheral media that is absorbed into society thru social media is some pretty serious accusations.

If its true, then Trump does need to see jail time.

if its not true, then we need to dismantle this system we have because its completely out of control, like we need to deal with it like the Chinese dealt with drug dealers.

[eCat]

its almost as if the "media" is out there realizing that Trump isn't going to go to jail for stolen documents or the 20 other things they tried to pin on him and they sit around thinking

well what can we accuse him of that he *has* to go to jail for? and then they brainstorm for a couple of hours and come up with releasing the names of spies to Putin.

its like they just keep raising the ante until they take this guy down

you have to ask yourself, what threat is a man like this to the establishment that will not sleep until he is stripped of all power?

[hedge]

I read an article by some some super lib that suggested Biden should give Trump a narrow pardon if all they've got on him is mishandling of classified documents. Of course no pardon if any seriously traitorous shit comes to light, but for simply being a buffoon and having taken some low level classified material to Florida with him, give him a pardon. It would take the wind out of the sails of the crowd that screams that the "deep state" is after him and also Trump would just hate getting a pardon from Biden...

[Jungle Rat]

"Trump isn't going to be on the ballot"

If he's not in jail (and maybe even if he is) and he wants to run, who's going to stop him?

What are you talking about? Rat assures us he's going to jail...

If this country has any balls left than yes. He'll go to jail. Unless you want this era to repeat itself.

[Jungle Rat]

I'm ready to get back to the coup stuff though. Selling spies names for their murder doesn't seem to be enough.

[eCat]

I've said more than once he might get indicted, even convicted on something, but he isn't going to jail.

for two reasons

1. its sets a bar for punitive measures against democrats. And I don't think you'd have to look to hard in Dems or Repub to find some shit indictment worthy, they want this man gone, but they don't want precedent for sending politicians to jail.

2. you don't want millions of Americans outraged that the deep state put their guy in jail on some bullshit made up charges - people that , in your words, tried to overthrow the governments when 100K of them showed up in Washington.