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eCat · Post by **eCat** » Wed May 25, 2011 1:53 pm

"That's better than having you invade Syria, no?"

you as opposed to us or we?

eCat · Post by **eCat** » Wed May 25, 2011 1:56 pm

Dora wrote:And btw, I didn't know Israeli pilots are trained in the US. Where can I learn more about this?

while I"m sure the F-16 is an advanced aircraft, I'm certain its not self explanatory. Note I did not say "in the US", I said "by the US". I'm fully aware of the reptutation the Israeli Air Force has.

Dora · Post by **Dora** » Wed May 25, 2011 1:58 pm

Israeli pilots are not trained by the US military.

BigRedMan · Post by **BigRedMan** » Wed May 25, 2011 1:58 pm

eCat wrote:
Dora wrote:And btw, I didn't know Israeli pilots are trained in the US. Where can I learn more about this?
while I"m sure the F-16 is an advanced aircraft, I'm certain its not self explanatory.

I have logged numerous hours on Flight Simulator and I will handle this.

It is not self explanatory.

eCat · Post by **eCat** » Wed May 25, 2011 1:59 pm

BigRedMan wrote:
eCat wrote:I know several (several being like 12) and they are all pretty cool to me - my soon to be brother-n-law is the nephew of James Caan.
Damn it Ecat, don't you know what this means???!!?? We should have an inside connection to have a Goat Pen party at the Playboy Mansion.

This is on you to make this happen.

I didn't say they liked each other.

eCat · Post by **eCat** » Wed May 25, 2011 2:02 pm

Dora wrote:Israeli pilots are not trained by the US military.

you're right, they don't participate in joint exercises or anything like that.

Dora · Post by **Dora** » Wed May 25, 2011 2:04 pm

you're right, they don't participate in joint exercises or anything like that.

Yes, they do participate in joint exercises. But IDF pilots are not trained by the US military.

eCat · Post by **eCat** » Wed May 25, 2011 2:06 pm

so what are those joint exercises called? Fun Days?

Dora · Post by **Dora** » Wed May 25, 2011 2:11 pm

Israel & the US are involved in the joint development of military technology. Believe it or not, Israel is has a formidable defense industry in its own right, selling weapons all over the world. That is one of the main reasons I oppose any more military aid to Israel. They really don't need it.

Anyway, IDF pilots are not trained by the US military.

Ron Mexico · Post by **Ron Mexico** » Wed May 25, 2011 2:12 pm

eCat wrote:
BigRedMan wrote:
eCat wrote:I know several (several being like 12) and they are all pretty cool to me - my soon to be brother-n-law is the nephew of James Caan.
Damn it Ecat, don't you know what this means???!!?? We should have an inside connection to have a Goat Pen party at the Playboy Mansion.

This is on you to make this happen.
I didn't say they liked each other.

I spent a semester, er, I mean 3 or 4 hours at a pool party with Hef, I'll handle this...

Hizzy III · Post by **Hizzy III** » Wed May 25, 2011 2:20 pm

http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/cr ... ble-4/view

The really bad:

Flint, MI
Detroit, MI
St. Louis, MO
Memphis, TN
Oakland, CA
Baltimore, MD
Buffalo, NY

The bad:

Cleveland, OH
Hartford, CT
Washington, DC
Philadelphia, PA
St. Petersburg, FL
Nashville, TN
Kansas City, MO
Miami, FL
Rochester, NY
Orlando, FL
Atlanta, GA
Tallahassee, FL

The not-so-good/not-so-bad:

Cincinnati, OH
Tulsa, OK
Kansas City, MO
Chicago, IL
Boston, MA
Houston, TX
Dallas, TX
San Francisco, CA
Milwaukee, WI
Newark, NJ
Oklahoma City, OK
Las Vegas, NV
Minneapolis, MN
New Orleans, LA (although, I find this hard to believe, given NOLA's homicide rate)
Wichita, KS
St. Paul, MN
Pittsburgh, PA
Sacramento, CA
Fresno, CA
Phoenix, AZ
Tacoma, WA

The Good:

San Diego, CA
Austin, TX
Seattle, WA
Denver, CO
San Antonio, TX
El Paso, TX
Fort Worth, TX
Omaha, NE
Honolulu, HI
New York, NY
Portland, OR
Jacksonville, FL
Los Angeles, CA
Tampa, FL
Louisville, KY
Charlotte, NC
Raleigh, NC
San Jose, CA

Pretty much all of the "really good" cities are large suburbs/ satellite cities, such as Plano, TX, Riverside, CA, Scottsdale, AZ and so on.

Surprised that Atlanta is still so high and that Boston and Minneapolis are as high as they are. Disappointed that Houston isn't lower, especially given the four consecutive years of decreasing homicide. Although, kudos to Dallas for lowering its violent crime rate as much as it has. For over a decade it was the state's most violent big city by far. VERY SURPRISED by how low both New Orleans and Tampa are (not that Tampa is all that violent to begin with but I thought it'd be somewhere along the lines of Houston, Kansas City, Milwaukee, etc).

Flint is out of control. Period.

eCat · Post by **eCat** » Wed May 25, 2011 2:22 pm

Is New Orleans still really bad? I thought that had passed.

Hizzy III · Post by **Hizzy III** » Wed May 25, 2011 2:23 pm

New Orleans' homicide rate is still very high (like Top Ten among cities with over 250,000 people). Apparently, they have a very low rate of assaults and rapes, according to the annual data they report.

eCat · Post by **eCat** » Wed May 25, 2011 2:25 pm

well obviously the criminals there just kill someone after they rob or rape them

TheBigMook · Post by **TheBigMook** » Wed May 25, 2011 2:29 pm

Hizzy III wrote:New Orleans' homicide rate is still very high (like Top Ten among cities with over 250,000 people). Apparently, they have a very low rate of assaults and rapes, according to the annual data they report.

Well the Wire taught us those stats can be for shit. Only bodies tell you how bad crime is for sure.

Hizzy III · Post by **Hizzy III** » Wed May 25, 2011 2:36 pm

Houston is the opposite. Its homicide rate is average to low for large cities (over 250,000 people) but we apparently like to scrap in the parking lots of clubs and whatnot. We've got a pretty high assault rate.

innocentbystander · Post by **innocentbystander** » Wed May 25, 2011 3:00 pm

Hizzy III wrote:Surprised that Atlanta is still so high and that Boston and Minneapolis are as high as they are.

Boston has 50+ undergraduate colleges and universities. young college kids get fake IDs/hook up with kids 21 or older, they drink, they assault (physically or sexually) each other

that probably wouldn't happen if we lowered the drinking age so that kids could learn to be more responsible with alcohol at earlier ages

aTm · Post by **aTm** » Wed May 25, 2011 3:10 pm

right

hedge · Post by **hedge** » Wed May 25, 2011 3:26 pm

Cary is virtually crime free, and Raleigh is very low comparable to cities of the same population (and even much less population). We're a peaceful folk here in NC. Compare Raleigh to, say, any city in Ohio. Bunch of violent rapists and murderers in Ohio...

Bklyn · Post by **Bklyn** » Wed May 25, 2011 4:39 pm

Ohio is barely America.

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