Florida State Seminoles

[aTm]

If I had known we'd be getting a young administration picked to actually fight and dismantle bureaucracy, I might have actually voted for Trump.

[hedge]

The main bureaucracy that needs dismantling is the DoD but that will never happen, not even slightly. We spend a trillion a year on "defense" and then people bitch and moan when we send some shit that was flagged for the junkyard anyway to fight Russia via proxy. Best money the DoD ever spent and it all goes to the (hopefully American) contractors who restock the shelves. God forbid if we put a boot on the ground anywhere though. Spending a trillion a year so folks can sit around and play solitaire at the Pentagon or whatever base they're on and nobody bats an eye, but one faggot gets a sex change operation in prison and people's heads explode...

[DooKSucks]

"Thomas Massie needs to be in charge of the BATF but he got Sec of Agriculture because goddammit, its important that people be able to drink milk straight from a cow. I actually have no idea why he wanted that position and I'm sure he'll be very small government about it, but the man could be so much more impactful in a good way somewhere else."

Dept. of Ag is in charge of a lot of "welfare" programs (food stamps and the like). Somebody gone be hongry...

Farmers are probably on the government tit more than just about any other part of the economy not directly affiliated with defense, but they tend to be extremely conservative. If the Department of Agriculture makes massive cuts, how are the farmers going to claim Trump is their savior?

Listen, I'm actually for government subsidies for agriculture because of the importance of keeping a diversified food supply from multiple regions, but I don't mind watching hypocrites have their heads explode.

[eCat]

Food stamps are just as important in Kentucky as they are New York.

Massie's district I believe is the richest part of the state, but I'd be surprised if he suggests cuts on food programs for Americans.

Now farm subsidies are probably a different story. I'd be fine with this government taking ethanol out of gas completely.

[eCat]

"Thomas Massie needs to be in charge of the BATF but he got Sec of Agriculture because goddammit, its important that people be able to drink milk straight from a cow. I actually have no idea why he wanted that position and I'm sure he'll be very small government about it, but the man could be so much more impactful in a good way somewhere else."

Dept. of Ag is in charge of a lot of "welfare" programs (food stamps and the like). Somebody gone be hongry...

Farmers are probably on the government tit more than just about any other part of the economy not directly affiliated with defense, but they tend to be extremely conservative. If the Department of Agriculture makes massive cuts, how are the farmers going to claim Trump is their savior?

Listen, I'm actually for government subsidies for agriculture because of the importance of keeping a diversified food supply from multiple regions, but I don't mind watching hypocrites have their heads explode.

Megafarms are a huge issue - you should see Kennedy talk about how Smithfield wiped out pig farming in North Carolina and now keeps their supply chain on poverty wages just to keep the family farm

[hedge]

But you don't have to try very hard to imagine the screams of bloody murder if they went back to the old way of producing hogs and bacon prices doubled...

[innocentbystander]

"Thomas Massie needs to be in charge of the BATF but he got Sec of Agriculture because goddammit, its important that people be able to drink milk straight from a cow. I actually have no idea why he wanted that position and I'm sure he'll be very small government about it, but the man could be so much more impactful in a good way somewhere else."

Dept. of Ag is in charge of a lot of "welfare" programs (food stamps and the like). Somebody gone be hongry...

Almost all the authority these federal agencies have is doling out money to the states with restrictions based on policy. Your state wants free federal money from the fed for highways? Keep a 55 mph speed limit. States that don’t get less or no fed money for their roads. It bribery with fed tax dollars. You can call it welfare if you like. But Ramaswamy did a perfect job illustrating how the DOE gives 10% of the budget to so many schools and in virtually all cases, that conditional bribery money is only given if the school district matches the policy proposals of the director who is running the agency.

Put a new director in place and you get policy changes. And as such the states alter their policies if they want to continue feasting on the federal tit.

[DooKSucks]

"Thomas Massie needs to be in charge of the BATF but he got Sec of Agriculture because goddammit, its important that people be able to drink milk straight from a cow. I actually have no idea why he wanted that position and I'm sure he'll be very small government about it, but the man could be so much more impactful in a good way somewhere else."

Dept. of Ag is in charge of a lot of "welfare" programs (food stamps and the like). Somebody gone be hongry...

Farmers are probably on the government tit more than just about any other part of the economy not directly affiliated with defense, but they tend to be extremely conservative. If the Department of Agriculture makes massive cuts, how are the farmers going to claim Trump is their savior?

Listen, I'm actually for government subsidies for agriculture because of the importance of keeping a diversified food supply from multiple regions, but I don't mind watching hypocrites have their heads explode.

Megafarms are a huge issue - you should see Kennedy talk about how Smithfield wiped out pig farming in North Carolina and now keeps their supply chain on poverty wages just to keep the family farm

1) RFK, Jr bitched, moaned, complained, lied and did all sorts of shit to try to harm hog farming over the past 30-40 years. He is far from the hog farmer's friend. He can eat shit and die.
2) "Megafarms" is a laughable term invented by RFK, Jr in his quest to harm farmers. Those "megafarms" literally saved thousands of family farms in NC and Iowa over the years.
3) Smithfield in its current CCP-owned form is a collection of assholes, but they're still buying shitloads of pork from their contract farmers. They have not "wiped out" hog farms in NC or Iowa.

[DooKSucks]

But you don't have to try very hard to imagine the screams of bloody murder if they went back to the old way of producing hogs and bacon prices doubled...

Doubled? Hell, we're talking tripling and quadrupling...if not more.

[innocentbystander]

That is really where all the power is for these agencies who create rules on the fly based solely on the policy of the director appointed by the POTUS to run it. It’s barbaric but this silliness is the fault of federal legislators too pussy to create bills to be voted into law for fear that they will lose them r seat in congress if they do.

[eCat]

somehow I don't think pig farmers existing as contract farmers for Smithfield are doing well.

[DooKSucks]

"Thomas Massie needs to be in charge of the BATF but he got Sec of Agriculture because goddammit, its important that people be able to drink milk straight from a cow. I actually have no idea why he wanted that position and I'm sure he'll be very small government about it, but the man could be so much more impactful in a good way somewhere else."

Dept. of Ag is in charge of a lot of "welfare" programs (food stamps and the like). Somebody gone be hongry...

Almost all the authority these federal agencies have is doling out money to the states with restrictions based on policy. Your state wants free federal money from the fed for highways? Keep a 55 mph speed limit. States that don’t get less or no fed money for their roads. It bribery with fed tax dollars. You can call it welfare if you like. But Ramaswamy did a perfect job illustrating how the DOE gives 10% of the budget to so many schools and in virtually all cases, that conditional bribery money is only given if the school district matches the policy proposals of the director who is running the agency.

Put a new director in place and you get policy changes. And as such the states alter their policies if they want to continue feasting on the federal tit.

"Here, Congress has acted indirectly under its spending power to encourage uniformity in the States' drinking ages. As we explain below, we find this legislative effort within constitutional bounds even if Congress may not regulate drinking ages directly. South Dakota v. Dole, 483 U.S. 203, 206 (1987).

The federal government is well within its right to encourage state actions by conditioning funding upon implementation of certain policies by the states. This has been going on for decades. It's not new, and for those of you who act like it is new, you are just illuminating your ignorance.

[DooKSucks]

somehow I don't think pig farmers existing as contract farmers for Smithfield are doing well.

They're not starving. That's for sure. Is it as good as it was when Murphy, Prestage, Goldsboro Milling, etc were the controlling the first iterations of contract farming? No. Are the Chicoms easy to deal with? No. But....are things absolutely dire for those farmers like your statement implies? No.

I'm not in favor of the CCP owning Smithfield, and it's a travesty that it was approved, but Wormhole Brain Kennedy is going to make things much worse if he gets his way.

[innocentbystander]

"Thomas Massie needs to be in charge of the BATF but he got Sec of Agriculture because goddammit, its important that people be able to drink milk straight from a cow. I actually have no idea why he wanted that position and I'm sure he'll be very small government about it, but the man could be so much more impactful in a good way somewhere else."

Dept. of Ag is in charge of a lot of "welfare" programs (food stamps and the like). Somebody gone be hongry...

Almost all the authority these federal agencies have is doling out money to the states with restrictions based on policy. Your state wants free federal money from the fed for highways? Keep a 55 mph speed limit. States that don’t get less or no fed money for their roads. It bribery with fed tax dollars. You can call it welfare if you like. But Ramaswamy did a perfect job illustrating how the DOE gives 10% of the budget to so many schools and in virtually all cases, that conditional bribery money is only given if the school district matches the policy proposals of the director who is running the agency.

Put a new director in place and you get policy changes. And as such the states alter their policies if they want to continue feasting on the federal tit.

"Here, Congress has acted indirectly under its spending power to encourage uniformity in the States' drinking ages. As we explain below, we find this legislative effort within constitutional bounds even if Congress may not regulate drinking ages directly. South Dakota v. Dole, 483 U.S. 203, 206 (1987).

The federal government is well within its right to encourage state actions by conditioning funding upon implementation of certain policies by the states. This has been going on for decades. It's not new, and for those of you who act like it is new, you are just illuminating your ignorance.

Of course it is their right. But that does not make it right. By the by the age of drinking for the country is now federal law at 21 not set by state law. So your example is irrelevant.

[hedge]

"By the by the age of drinking for the country is now federal law at 21 not set by state law. So your example is irrelevant."

Marijuana is illegal under federal law (I think Biden is getting it moved off of Schedule I, where it has sat for decades along with heroin and the like, but Trump will probably put it back) but it's legal in many states. So what's your point?