The Goat Pen

Sardis, the first graph was from the OMB. This one is identical and comes from the CBO. http://www.npr.org/news/graphics/2010/01/gr-deficit-624.gif tick, first, your graph is a couple years outdated. Second, it's only referring to our debt that is held by the public and not including debt held by o...

Sorry, Owlman, it was tick who posted the 30%. you two start sounding alike after awhile...

Sardis - a chart of U.S. public debt% vs gdp - notice how it began a dramatic climb during the first term of Reagan, and peaked at the end of Clintons first term, and the steep decline throughout that 2nd Clinton term (down to near 30%), and then the march upwards beginning in '01 http://www.edinfo...

Lassie was eaten by a bear...

You can't compare today's situation with back in 1994. Debt as a percentage of gdp before Clinton came in was about 65%. He left with it about 58% in 2001. (I don't know where Owlman gets his 30%). Plus Clinton and the R's back then did not have the immediate future issue of medicare, like we do now...

No, you just wussed out on that argument....

More like beaver whipped...

or you significantly raise the age of retirement to 72 + starting with those who are currently 55, which we have to do. As Dora has pointed out, we don't "have" to do it. Right now, it's 67 for those born after 1960. Jumping the retirement age 7 years for those less with 10 years left to ...

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It ain't just the media that wants to see this...

I also hear Heather Mitts has posed for Maxim?

The light blue belts bring out the color in their eyes...

That's because I'm not trying to balance the budget over one year, and recognize that politically, we aren't cutting medicare much at all over the next 20 years. With that political reality, the goal is not to have a balance of zero but to move towards having more income than outgo in the next 20 y...

That all sounds nice and good, but can you quantify those proposals? The additional tax revenues you propose only bring an additional 200 Billion or so a year. You also don't seem to make significant cuts to medicare. You can set the wealthy tax rate to 100% and still not cover what is potentially n...

How much does Owlman say we need to raise taxes for this 20 year phase-out plan. Pre-Bush?, more? Does Owlman really think we have 20 years to balance the budget? Does he think that will build confidence in American business community?

So even the lazy Greeks passed an austerity plan. I guess the USA Democrats are the only people left on the planet holding out on cutting costs....

Definition of SODOMY : anal or oral copulation with a member of the same or opposite sex; also : copulation with an animal So if I read that correctly, I can't give / receive oral sex with a woman?????? Fuck that noise, son. I eat more pussy than cervical cancer. No worries for DS though. The "...

The most important question is, are any of them hot?

And (Jesus) answered and said to them, “Have you not read that He who made them at the beginning ‘made them male and female,’ and said, ‘For this reason a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh’? So then, they are no longer two but one fle...

Sardis, in my liberal circles, I don't know of any women who opted for single parenthood in order to benefit from these programs. Personally, I think women who benefit from such programs should abstain from sex. In wealthy and middle class liberal circles I won't dispute you, but with the poor it's...

Sardis, I would put my knowledge of the Bible up against most true believers. My love of the Book of Leviticus is well known. I will look for any chance to discuss the high comedy therein (as well as select readings from Exodus, Genesis, Kings and a few others - it's great reading). I ask that you ...