The Goat Pen

Schiano knew about Sandusky

Ergo the revolt on Rocky Top!

And schiano is out before he's in.

Has Prof resurfaced or is he still passed out on Toomer?

I think the bigger problem with Schiano is that everyone in Tennessee had convinced themselves they were getting Jon Gruden

and until they come to grips with that not happening (I assume its not) then no matter who they get, he's going to be shot down. Schiano's tie to Sandusky was a convenient firestorm to tell the UT department to go back tot he drawing board and get someone who gets the fans excited in a good way.

Schiano>Gruden

Saint wrote:And schiano is out before he's in.

Has Prof resurfaced or is he still passed out on Toomer?

I'm still alive and well - VERY well - thank you. I shared my sage wisdom and brilliant analysis over on the SEC board.

hedge wrote: I wish you were not alive.

Was it a dream?

Maybe the authorities will let Sandusky out of prison on saturdays in the fall to serve as Schiano's DC.

I'd like to know how much UT is going to have to pay Schiano for this

heh

I neither like nor dislike Tennessee. But I haven't seen a program in such a disastrous state since SMU in '85.

A strong Tennessee is good for the SEC. Same goes for Florida. Without them, the East will fall into the hands of Georgia, which is rising under Smart, and doesn't need the help.

A&M might have pulled the trigger too fast unless they have the perfect coach lined up

https://www.sbnation.com/college-footba ... ches-fired


On the heels of 11- and nine-win seasons, Boston College pushed Jeff Jagodzinski out because he deigned to interview for other jobs. They were 2-10 four years later and haven’t reached nine wins since.
Ron Zook took Illinois to nine wins and a Rose Bowl in 2007, and after a two-year reset, got them back to 7-6 in both 2010 and 2011. He was fired. Illinois has averaged 3.7 wins per year since.
Dan McCarney won at least seven games five times in a six-year span at Iowa State but was let go after a 4-8 downturn in 2006. ISU has not topped seven wins since, though that could change with an upcoming bowl game.
Ralph Friedgen took Maryland to seven bowls in 10 years, and after a two-win collapse in 2009, rebounded to nine wins in 2010. Maryland has averaged 4.7 wins per year since firing him.
NC State pushed Tom O'Brien out in 2012 after 24 wins in three years. Their best three-year win total since: 22.
David Cutcliffe won seven or more games for five straight years at Ole Miss, peaking with a 10-win campaign in 2003. But after a 4-7 reset in 2004, he was fired. The Rebels would top four wins twice in the next seven years.
Pitt pushed Dave Wannstedt out after after 26 wins in three years. The Panthers have averaged 6.6 wins since.
Despite seven ranked finishes in 11 years, Syracuse fired Paul Pasqualoni after he hit a dry spell. He went 4-8 in 2002 then rebounded to only 6-6 in 2003-04. Syracuse went 10-37 under replacement Greg Robinson and has averaged 4.4 wins since Pasqualoni.
Phil Fulmer took Tennessee to 15 bowls and five SEC championship games in 16 years. He won the national title in 1998 and won at least eight games 14 times. He fell to 5-6 in 2005 but rebounded back to 10 wins in 2007. After a second five-win reset in 2008, he was fired. The Vols have hit the eight-win mark twice in the nine years since.

I agree with this mostly. You can throw in RC Slocum as well. Its a risk to fire a good coach, because you may not be getting even a good coach back.

If the hire is a proven head coach though, I dont see it as a big problem. Illinois hired a small conference coach, Iowa State hired an assistant coach, Maryland hired a low/mid major who had never won big, NC State hired a small conference coach, Ole Miss hired an assistant (not even a coordinator), Pitt hired a small conference coach who immediately got out of dodge and then hired an assistant, Syracuse hired an assistant. Tennessee hired a young former NFL coach who left immediately, then hired a small conference coach.

So we arent exactly talking about teams who landed the big fish after firing a coach. If A&M hires like Chad Morris (which the only reason A&M fans even care who he is is because he went to A&M) then yeah, its a dumb move.

Florida is interesting. Wasn't Zook at Florida and failed before he went to Illinois, then Meyer came to Florida?

At any rate, Florida has been replaced by Alabama, and maybe 2 or 3 others in the long term pecking order of the SEC.

Not Kentucky though. They have a coach with a buyout that rivals the NFL for 7 win seasons.

I wish you were first in the pecking order of a giant chicken...

my wife told me that this morning

Seriously? That she wished you'd get pecked by a giant chicken?

I think she wished he had a giant pecker.

10ac wrote:I think she wished he had a giant pecker.

wait, thats probably what she said

Heh heh

Zook followed Spurrier so he was doomed to fail. Tennessee has sucked for so long I can't even remember who their fans were at WC

I'm laughing at Tennessee right now. I miss Shiny.