Minnesota TimberWolves

[AlabamAlum]

Didn't Catalan used to tout Rubio on the old NBA Western Confernce forums?

[TheBigMook]

The baddest Lost Boy since Pan.

[Bklyn]

Didn't Catalan used to tout Rubio on the old NBA Western Confernce forums?

Yes, he was incessant. The thing is, during that time (the Olympics), Rubio was 17 and played well for a 17 years old playing against men. With that said, he only had like 4 assists and some minimal amount of points on horrendous shooting.

Catalan's "regionalism" (won't call it Nationalism...since it's not a nation) was just blinding him.

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[T Dot O Dot]

from the film ive seen he does have the tendency to make a funademental pass into a highligh reel, which isnt necessary

i stand corrected on his skill level, i do wonder if kahn is watching that westbrook-durant dynamic

i cant call it, but i think westbrook wants #1 status somewhere (which is ridiculous to me)

would Minny entertain a westbrook-rubio swap?

I think that works for both sides

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i cant call it, but i think westbrook wants #1 status somewhere (which is ridiculous to me)

Westbrook is crazy talented, but I'm starting to get a bit of a "Marbury vibe" from him.

It would be a trade Minny would HAVE to consider, but I personally prefer a PG that makes his teammates better over a high usage/score first guy.

[Bklyn]

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[T Dot O Dot]

Love is not a #1

Westbrook is not a #2

Rubio & Durant could be a sick combo

[Bklyn]

If Russell would submit to a max contract without the "Derrick Rose Rule" kickers (that he may or may not qualify for this year) then I would do it if I were Minny. If it's just a straight trade and you can't guarantee that Westbrook would stay after this year, then you have to keep Rubio.

I agree, though, lining him up with Durant would be scary.

(I have a bit of the "Starbury" concerns like Sim, too)

[Hizzy III]

The wildcard for the Thunder is your boy Harden. He makes for a nice, unsung #3 type guy.

I agree on Westbrook, though. He seems to have a bit too much of that me first mindset that can make it difficult for him to be as effective at the point as he could be.

I don't think it's Marburyesque, though. Hopefully some of it goes away over time.

I'd have to see more from Rubio from outside to say if he'd be a better fit with Durant.

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Slow start for Rubio tonight, but he owned the last 5 minutes of the game. His scoring and passing blew open a tight game.

[Bklyn]

I missed it...didn't realize it was on until it was over. It's been almost 300 days since Minny's last victory, so it was earned.

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Rubio in four 4th quarters:

48 mins, 7-10 FG (5/7 3PT), 21 pts, 14 assts, 9 rebs, +27.

[Bklyn]

I just watched the 4th Quarter rebroadcast. Dude is a leader...a Pistol Pete Meets Sonny Bono Looking leader...but a leader. I would love him on my team.

[Hizzy III]

The 5-7 from 3-PT range is big. It'll open up his penetration and his ability to distribute.

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2 wins in a row - is that allowed in the NBA?

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Hollinger:

Welcome back to the NBA, Minnesota. We missed you.

Although the Timberwolves lost a tight one to the Memphis Grizzlies on Wednesday night, one of the takeaways from these opening days of the season is that Minnesota once again has a legitimate professional basketball team. Kevin Love has come back in better shape and looks like a bona fide superstar, nailing step-back 3s and ranking fourth in the NBA in PER. Rookie Derrick Williams looks like a long-term keeper, too; in fact, he has outplayed starter Michael Beasley and could get his job at some point.

And then there's Ricky. Point guard Ricky Rubio has given new meaning to the term "Rickrolled," wowing fans and critics alike with his supernatural passing skills. He's averaging 10.1 dimes per 40 minutes and assisting on more than 40 percent of the possessions he uses; he's also playing solid defense and is helping on the boards.

None of that comes as a big surprise, but this last, most important item is: He's making shots. Rubio is at 52.6 percent from the field with a 63.4 TS%, nearly double what his translated European stats led us to expect from him. And this is the part that bears watching. Two years ago, a rookie with poor shooting numbers in Europe took the NBA by storm, raining a torrent of 3s on unsuspecting opponents. His name was Brandon Jennings, and he regressed to his previous baseline pretty quickly.

So let's not proclaim Ricky's shooting woes over based on 38 field goal attempts. But he doesn't have to shoot like this to be a star; he just has to be non-awful. The rest of his game is that good. So far, the signs in that department are really encouraging.

As they are for the Wolves. Minnesota won only 17 games a year ago, but, if the Wolves ever stop playing Draft Failure Roulette at shooting guard, they might be a playoff team. They are a shocking 11th in defensive efficiency against a fairly difficult early schedule, and they have a positive scoring margin to boot.

In fact, don't let that 2-4 record fool you; between their strong schedule and solid scoring margin, the Wolves rank 10th in my yet-be-released Power Rankings. I don't think they'll hold such a lofty perch all season, but just the fact they aren't in the bottom five has to have Wolves fans singing hallelujah (and New Orleans Hornets fans crying into their chicory coffee).

As a result, Minnesota tops my list of early-season surprises -- teams with results we might not take fully at face value just yet but that have strong starts that deserve more scrutiny going forward.

[Bklyn]

In essence, Adelman is a top quintile coach.

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Getting schooled by Ricky Rubio

Those in the know aren't surprised by his success. Our expert should've known better.
By Michael Wilbon
ESPN.com

To some, the fifth pick in the 2009 draft looked wasted on Ricky Rubio. Not to the T-Wolves, though.

The men who truly know the game of basketball globally, from little towns in China to little towns in Indiana, weren't really worried about Ricky Rubio successfully transitioning to the NBA. They weren't daunted by the number of times he'd score zero points and get only an assist or two in an entire game playing in Europe. They looked at his hands, his ability to throw pinpoint passes, his fearless creativity, and they knew the point guard from Spain was going to be better here, in the U.S., than he was on his native soil.

Magic Johnson, the man who probably knows more about the passing game than anybody in the history of basketball, saw Rubio go 0-for-5 shooting with three assists in an exhibition victory over the Lakers nearly two years ago, and still he came away certain Rubio would be at the very least a good NBA point guard. I told Magic the Timberwolves were nuts for wasting the No. 5 overall pick in 2009 on this kid who kept putting up zeros in international competition. Magic said, and I quote, "You're going to be wrong. Listen to me on this kid. He'll be better in the NBA than he is in Europe because our guys are more athletic and they run to the rim. In Europe, guys don't really run the break; they fan out around the 3-point line, they pump-fake, they look to score in other ways. Our guys are going to see a dude who can pass it like Rubio and run like hell to the rim. Trust me."

I didn't. I was a fool.

Rubio's game, just as Magic promised, is better suited to the NBA than any league in Europe. It's clear the kid can find an open teammate like very few rookies in recent years. Rubio is averaging 7.9 assists even though he's played more than 30 minutes in just three of 10 games. In four of his last eight games, he has reached double-digits in assists. And his creativity on the move is much more Steve Nash than John Stockton, which has made the Timberwolves worth watching for the first time since Kevin Garnett left.

"There's a difference," Magic said by way of explanation, "between making a pass to somebody and creating a shot for a guy. Rubio creates a shot. He's got instincts, great instincts."

Tony Ronzone, a former assistant GM of the T-Wolves, scouted Rubio extensively. Ronzone, who has coached teams in New Zealand, Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates and China, saw Rubio's game translating beautifully to the U.S. even before Magic had caught a glimpse. Rubio was a teenager when Ronzone saw a kid who "would be much more effective in the U.S. because guys run to the rim ... and they run harder when they play with a guy like Ricky."

Ronzone was working with the U.S. Olympic team in Beijing, where in a game against Spain, the U.S. threw a trap at Rubio with LeBron James and Carmelo Anthony or LeBron and Dwyane Wade or Anthony and Wade. Whatever the combination, "Ricky would split it, or find a teammate so fast," Ronzone recalled. "He'd split the pick and roll and throw a phenomenal pass to the weak side. You can't teach that. ... In 2010 in the World Championships in Madrid, we're playing this exhibition against Spain and Ricky took the ball off Derrick Rose in two of the first four possessions. In another game, the kid had to go against Chauncey Billups and Russell Westbrook, and they couldn't take the ball from him."

Sure enough, Rubio had 12 assists for the T-Wolves against Rose and the Bulls on Tuesday night, after getting 12 against LeBron and the Heat on Dec. 30. Magic, bless him, didn't hit me with "I told you so."

"What got me about Rubio," he said, "was that international players often back down when the level of competition jumps, but [Rubio] didn't. The thing that really set him up was that he was smart enough, at 17 years old, to wait and keep playing in Europe. He got bigger and stronger. He already had that beautiful footwork, the movement. Gasol has it; Ginobili has it. They're what I call attackers. When challenged, they go forward, not backward."

Ronzone, having spent so much time abroad, where soccer is king, said, "I call it having a soccer mentality. It's pass-first. It's unselfish. And most of all, it's about not turning the ball over much because turnovers in soccer kill you. Soccer is so much about controlling the game. He can definitely control the game."

And because he can, Rick Adelman is already at the point where he's considering putting Rubio into the starting lineup ... not that there's much of a decision to make. Simply put, Rubio is ready to be an NBA starter. Already, he's shown he can be a closer. Rubio's 11.6 minutes per game in the fourth quarter are No. 1 in that category among all NBA players, not just rookies.

With two days' rest, which usually means a chance to practice, the kid is averaging 12 assists. Even with one day's rest, he's averaging 9.0. Surely, he -- like just about every other rookie in the history of the league -- will hit the proverbial wall, but so what? Think the Knicks wouldn't mind having such a problem? How about the Wizards, who passed on drafting Rubio and instead dealt for Randy Foye and Mike Miller, neither of whom is on the club's roster any longer. Talk about making a killer mistake. That amounts to a spectacular failure in judgment. A sportswriter misses on that evaluation, he writes an apology column. But when a GM (in this case, Ernie Grunfeld) misses, it's no wonder his team winds up with less talent and fewer wins than any other team in the league.

Not only is Rubio better than I could project, he's better right now than John Wall, the No. 1 pick of the very next draft. Wall can't shoot as well, can't run a team as well and has virtually no chance of passing the ball as well. Wow, talk about misery loving company.

In a sport where it seems to be a requisite for every player to remind us of somebody who came before, people already are making their Rubio comparisons. Nash. Jason Kidd. Rubio is a pass-first point guard in an era of shoot-first point guards. Even so, the kid is shooting 46 percent, 47 percent from 3, pretty good for a kid who simply doesn't care about scoring. He has borrowed one of Magic's favorite lines: "I'd rather make two people happy than one." Which is sort of the passer's credo.

Magic and Ronzone both say Rubio will get better as he plays with better athletes, like rookie teammate Derrick Williams. Rubio seems to have survived the very thing I thought would crush him: expectations. Ronzone doesn't seem to be exaggerating when he says, "One of his best attributes is nothing fazes him."

Still, it simply didn't seem reasonable for the Timberwolves to make Rubio the face of the franchise, given that the team had so far to go to just reach respectability. After all, even with Kevin Love playing out of his mind and Rubio throwing passes with Drew Brees accuracy, the Timberwolves were 3-7, tied for last in the Western Conference. Fortunately for them, Ronzone knew he and the team weren't getting a prima donna, but someone who told the staff he didn't really want to start as a rookie, that he wanted to learn the game and earn both his keep and a spot on the floor. He didn't particularly want the pressure of what the franchise was asking him, but he didn't shrink from it, either.

"The last five years, people were coming after that kid every single game," Ronzone said. "And he's just a buck-80."

His talent, of course, is much bigger than his frame, and from what we've already seen, his impact could be bigger than his tangible talents. Only 10 games into his NBA career, I find myself for the first time in years sneaking a peek at Timberwolves games to see if Rubio is going to throw a pass that makes me hit rewind. If you're going to be as dead, stupid wrong about a position as I was about how good Rubio would be in the NBA, at least let it happen quickly while there is still standing room on the back of the kid's bandwagon.

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We may not be winning many games (3-7), but this is staggering:

Through 10 games this year, the Wolves are +3 in point differential.
Through 10 games last year, the Wolves were -107 in point differential.