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[bluetick]

Why the Keystone XL Pipeline Is Already Dead - Financial Times

http://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/ ... id=U142DHP

[Toemeesleather]

LMAO.....opportunistic headline probably true now that fracking has taken hold the last 5 years......you can't make this sh!te up!!!

But that's ok, Hope-a-Dope had his chance to create jobs years ago and punted....lost his ass (and both houses) Now his gobblers are crowing..."We don't need it"


YOU CAN'T MAKE THE SH!TE UP!

[Toemeesleather]

Please, please, please, please.....post a link to an article where the stimulus money is the reason for the explosion in jobs/production of oil in fracking.....please.

[billy bob bocephus]

What has Barkley's golf swing have to do with his quote?

oh, thats right, when you can't make a logical response attack the person

[Toemeesleather]

The threshold for surely, nobody can be this stoopid just keeps dropping with this guy in charge.

[hedge]

Still mad about all those cracks against Bush I see...

[Professor Tiger]

Why the Keystone XL Pipeline Is Already Dead - Financial Times

http://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/ ... id=U142DHP

Let's overrule the MMGW religion's anti-science and anti-logic obstruction of Keystone and watch what happens.

[hedge]

Let's do that with the catholic church and see what happens...

[Cletus]

Speaking of global warming, this report I saw this morning is not good at all. The land ice on Antarctica is disappearing and the rate at which it's melting is growing.

http://www.slate.com/blogs/bad_astronom ... ually.html

[Professor Tiger]

Is that the same "disappearing" Antarctic ice that was so thick last winter that a shipload of MMGW theologians got stuck in it and had to be rescued? Even the rescue ships got stuck in that "disappearing" ice.

http://abcnews.go.com/International/52- ... d=21395171

[hedge]

Yes...

[Dr. Strangelove]

Pretty amazing that a cop can choke a man to death (using a chokehold banned by the NYPD) and have that death ruled a homicide by the coroner and not even have to face a trial. Geez

http://www.vox.com/2014/11/26/7285263/p ... rguson-law

Somewhere lrd is applauding

[aTm]

Are there real estate opportunities in Antarctica yet?

[AlabamAlum]

Ocean front.

[Professor Tiger]

I've got several nice ocean front lots in Antarctica for sale. Call today before they're all sold.

[Cletus]

Is that the same "disappearing" Antarctic ice that was so thick last winter that a shipload of MMGW theologians got stuck in it and had to be rescued? Even the rescue ships got stuck in that "disappearing" ice.

http://abcnews.go.com/International/52- ... d=21395171

There is a significant difference between land ice and sea ice which you would know if you read the link.

[Johnette's Daddy]

So, at the beginning of the Grand Jury proceedings, prosecutors gave grand jurors copies of a Missouri law that allowed police to shoot fleeing suspects . . . but apparently they didn't realize that the law was ruled unconstitutional in 1985 . . . they did hand the jurors a copy of the correct case law three months later, an hour before the jurors went into deliberation, without explaining what the mistake was . . .

In Ferguson, Prosecutors’ Fateful Mistake of Law

Edward Garner made off with a purse and $10 in cash after burglarizing a home in Memphis, Tenn., late on the evening of Oct. 3, 1974. He paid for his crime with his life when a Memphis police officer, Elton Hymon, shot him in the head as Garner fled on foot and ignored the officer’s shouted instruction to halt.
A Shelby County grand jury declined to bring any charges against Hymon for the shooting, but Garner’s father later filed a federal civil rights suit against Hymon and the city of Memphis for his son’s death. And when the case reached the U.S. Supreme Court, the justices ruled that the Tennessee law authorizing the use of deadly force to apprehend any suspected felon fleeing from police was unconstitutional.
“The use of deadly force to prevent the escape of all felony suspects, whatever the circumstances, is constitutionally unreasonable,” Justice Byron R. White wrote for the 6-3 majority in Tennessee v. Garner (1985). White, a pro-law enforcement vote in most criminal procedure cases, concluded that the Fourth Amendment’s rule against “unreasonable” seizures allows the use of deadly force only if necessary to prevent the escape of a suspected felon who poses a physical threat to the officer or to others.
A decade after the Supreme Court ruling, a law professor who ran the numbers found a measurable decline in the number of police homicides over time. The drop was slightly greater in those states that formally found their deadly-force statutes unconstitutional than in those states that left laws inconsistent with the ruling on the books.
Missouri was among those states that never changed its unrestricted deadly-force law. So when the St. Louis County prosecutors assigned to the grand jury investigating the shooting death of Michael Brown went to the law books, they found a statute that had not been changed since 1979, six years before the Supreme Court’s ruling. And the prosecutors gave grand jurors that law on Sept. 16 as Ferguson, Mo., police officer Darren Wilson was about to testify before them and give his account of the fatal encounter with Brown.
It was more than three months later, on Nov. 21, when prosecutor Kathi Alizadeh confessed error to the grand jurors. Alizadeh told the grand jurors that she and colleague Shelia Whirley had found after additional “research” that the Missouri statute “does not comply with the case law.”
Back in September, the prosecutors had given the grand juror a printed copy of the Missouri deadly-force statute to have before them as Wilson testified. Now, Alizadeh told the grand jurors to “fold that in half so that you [ ] don’t necessarily rely on that. . . .” She proceeded to give the grand jurors a new sheet of paper — apparently not included in the materials released by the St. Louis County prosecutor’s office. The new handout “does correctly state” the law on use of deadly force, Alizadeh explained, but without specifying exactly what was wrong from the previous handout.
From the transcript, it does not appear that Alizadeh identified the Supreme Court’s decision by name or explained its holding or reasoning. She simply said that the previous explanation of the law had “something in it that’s not correct. Ignore it totally.”
Garner’s death 40 years earlier differed in significant respects from Brown’s fatal encounter on the afternoon of Aug. 9. Garner was slight of build: 5-foot-4 and 100 pounds, according to the evidence; Brown was bigger: 6-foot-2 and 280 pounds. Garner was suspected of nothing other than the alleged burglary; Brown had compounded his suspected offense — the theft of a package of cigarillos from a conveniences store — by a tussle of some sort with Wilson as the officer sat in his patrol car.
Most significantly, Hymon assumed Garner was unarmed and fired at Garner’s back. Wilson testified that he fired at Brown only after the teenager had reached inside his waistband, possibly for a gun, and had begun to charge at the officer. “At this point,” Wilson told the grand jurors, “I’m backpedaling pretty good because I know if he reaches me, he’ll kill me.”
Some witnesses disputed Wilson’s reconstruction of the events. According to those accounts, Brown had his hands up as though to surrender. In any event, Wilson never saw Brown with a weapon. And from his own words Wilson started out in pursuit of Brown not because he saw the teenager as a threat to himself or to others but only because he thought it his job to apprehend the fleeing suspect.
Three decades earlier, the Supreme Court had laid down a rule that catching a crook does not of itself justify a police officer in using deadly force. But grand jurors did not know of that rule when they initially listened to Wilson’s testimony. Instead, the grand jurors had in mind the prosecutors’ mistake of law that completely excused Wilson. Asking the grand jurors three months later to ignore the mistake was surely a fruitless attempt to unring the bell.
The grand jurors are barred by law from explaining their reasoning or even disclosing their vote. But even without the other mistakes by police and prosecutors in the case, the prosecutors’ ignorance of the current law on deadly force was enough to doom any chance for the grand jury to hold Wilson accountable at law for his actions.

http://jostonjustice.blogspot.com/2014/ ... stake.html

[bluetick]

What has Barkley's golf swing have to do with his quote?

oh, thats right, when you can't make a logical response attack the person

Not an attack, and no response is necessary. Funny golf swing is funny. Barkley is in the entertainment business, after all.

[bluetick]

Pretty amazing that a cop can choke a man to death (using a chokehold banned by the NYPD) and have that death ruled a homicide by the coroner and not even have to face a trial.

"Not enough evidence to support an indictment".....if only somebody had a smart phone and captured the whole thing and put it on the web and got 30 million views worldwide. Oh well.